On Wednesday 25 May 2016 02:38:57 Gregg Eshelman wrote:

> If I was that hard up for a vacuum nozzle reducer... lathe + random
> bits of PVC pipe and other stuff laying about the place. ;) We know
> you have a lathe...
>
Nah, the darned thing is busted again.  Stripped the teeth off the drive 
belt.  Probably more than 10 belts its done that to now. I was so PO'd 
that I haven't even looked to see if I had another spare, I just walked 
away because if I had pulled it out to start disassembly #21, I may have 
just taken a 4 lb hammer & made scrap iron out of it.

I don't care how much lipstick you put on it, that thing is still a pig 
that should be been sold as a 1x12 as the drive system, even when 
replaced with all metal parts as that one now has, that cogged belt 
simply cannot transmit the torque needed to take a cut of steel off big 
enough to cool the insert once the diameter of the workpiece exceeds 
3/4".  And the cogged belt in it now is a different, newer profile with 
3x the horsepower rateing compared to the more rounded tooth profile of 
the OEM belt.  I even put a jackscrew in to block the shaft and mounting 
flex from ever flexing enough to give it some slack, and it was 
tensioned to the no slack condition on both sides of the pulley.  That 
setup can be had on flea bay, advertised as speed reducer fotr the 
7x10-12-14's, which I do not need since the  jackshaft is already a 3/1 
reduction from the OEM motor, and this motor is a 1 HP treadmill, 
running on one of Jons PWM Servo amps with nominally 107 volts dc & at 
least 10 amps CCW available. 1400 rpms at the spindle sound like 10 
grand at the motor.  With the backgear in high.  About 800 revs in low.

If I fix it again, the lower pulley will be replaced by one with at least 
10 more cogs in order to distribute the load over 5 more belt cogs. This 
belt is available in 5 cog increments, so I'd be in adjustment range if 
I order a belt 10 cogs longer, and a pulley with 10 more teeth. Let the 
motor slow down to about 60% and grunt some more, Jon's amplifier can 
certainly do it.

How does that math work when you intend to stay within say 2mm of the 
same center to center distance?  10 more teeth on the lower, smaller 
pulley would bring it up to a much better match to the upper pulleys 
size, which is IIRC currently a 28 tooth.

OTOH, I am about to go get a bigger lathe, which means I start the cnc 
conversion all over again, possibly even using some of the motors on 
this one.  This one was a nice, VERY educational conversion but I've 
beat this horse to death too often asking it to do what it was 
advertised to do, swing and cut a 3" OD part when it was sold as a 7".

And I have one of those 8mm ball screws with the teeny flangeless nut, 
for the crossfeed conversion, left yet.  The problem with it is 
designing a swarf free environment as the nut has no felt wipers.  I did 
make some for the toy mill, but that needs a redesign as the felt crush 
translates to backlash and its a cast iron b---h to tighten the nuts to 
take that back out. BTDT, 2x already.

I'll need a longer Z screw of course, if I even change it.  The half nut 
is all new and very tight. The question is how big a motor will it take 
to run it w/o the reduced friction ball nut. More learning curve for 
sure.  Like how can LCNC track the carriages position when the ball nut 
has been disengaged? That will probably cost a few $heckels for 
something to measure it and report to LCNC, the cost of which have to be 
balanced against the cost of a ball screw permanently engaged as then 
the stepper's track it for you.  

Eventually the ball screw is the better deal in my mind.  But we'll see.

One thing is for sure, that pricey new line powered driver and the 910 oz 
motor on the mill's Z drive is amazing, it throws that head around at 70 
IPM without a complaint, or counterweight springs, with ridiculous accel 
ratio settings.  It can follow a rigid tap peck that drives it at 30 
IPM, backlash and all, without a following error.

Lots of questions yet to be asked.  And I ramble, trying to think 90 days 
on down the log. :)

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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