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More info than you probably want right now, but. At some point in the future you might want to alter fuses; Atmel bare chips ship using the onboard 8Mhz oscillator and divide the result by 8. If you want a chip to perform as it does on an arduino board with an external 16Mhz crystal you have to change fuses (and you can with Studio 7), but one fuse setting must not be changed since it will brick the chip. More info here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDUG7aJXL9k and here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VLfgOM7uS0 Martin ________________________________ Well... you might want to read this. https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/ You Don’t Need a Product Key to Install and Use Windows 10<https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/> www.howtogeek.com Microsoft allows anyone to download Windows 10 for free and install it without a product key. 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Dave On 2/26/2017 9:26 AM, Martin Dobbins wrote: > Thanks for the update Dave, it's a shame that I'd also have to factor in the > cost of buying a windows licence to run the software. > > > I do have a legal copy of windows vista, but I don't think studio 7 will run > on anything earlier than windows 7? > > > Martin > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:18 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > > >>Good luck and let us know how you get on. > > Just some feedback on this Atmel ICE and Atmel Studio 7. > I loaded it up today and connected it to a Arduino Uno Clone ($10 off > Amazon). > > Atmel Studio 7 is really nice! > > I followed the example in the link here: > http://blog.solutions-cubed.com/debugging-arduino-sketches-with-atmel-studio-7/ [http://blog.solutions-cubed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/debug_breakpoint_thumb.jpg]<http://blog.solutions-cubed.com/debugging-arduino-sketches-with-atmel-studio-7/> DEBUGGING ARDUINO SKETCHES WITH ATMEL STUDIO 7<http://blog.solutions-cubed.com/debugging-arduino-sketches-with-atmel-studio-7/> blog.solutions-cubed.com Atmel’s AtmelStudio version 7 allows you to import Arduino sketches and debug them. This brings the Arduino into the realm of a professional design engineer tool. > > > Atmel Studio 7 can open an existing Arduino sketch and import it into > Atmel studio and at the same time it exposes all of the overhead > software in the Arduino. > > I opened a Sketch I already had, set a few break points and watched it > run. The software stopped at the break points and and I could > interrogate variables via the command window. I had previously altered > the sketch to output some text messages to the Arduino IDE serial > window, so I fired up the Arduino IDE and opened the serial window and I > could see the text messages there and watch for breakpoints in Atmel > Studio at the same time. > > With the ICE, I can now pause and resume the program execution at > anytime, and when paused, interrogate the program for variable values > just as I could after a breakpoint was met. I believe I can also set > them. The commands available in the Atmel Studio command window is > extensive. > > I'm only scratching the surface of this Atmel IDE but it is a huge > improvement over just having the Arduino IDE. > > For $90 including tax and shipping, this is a no-brainer for debugging > difficult programs. This will be a big time saver. > > Dave > > > On 2/25/2017 11:49 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >> That's really interesting. Thanks for the link. >> I read some things before about the Arduino overhead impacting user >> code. That is a glaring example. >> I'm trying to stay as generic as possible.. if I need to dip into the >> hardware specifics because of the overhead in the Arduino I will, but >> it sure would be nice to try and keep the code generic as possible >> since Arduino has both AVR and ARM boards. And I certainly don't >> want to toss all of the established device libraries for the Arduino >> out the window. >> >> I guess it may be human nature to try and keep things cheap, but if a >> project is not going to result in hundreds or thousands of devices >> being made, the cost difference between a AVR or ARM seem to be almost >> irrelevant compared to the labor/time involved. Hopefully by trying to >> keep things fairly generic I can move between the two as it makes sense. >> >> Regarding the Atmel ICE and Microchip; I ordered the ICE late one >> night, the following day Microchip shipped it out and I had it the >> next day. They shipped it overnight even though I didn't ask for >> overnight shipping. So far, Microchip has me impressed. I'll let you >> know what I find regarding the ICE. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave >> >> On 2/23/2017 10:09 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> >>> Being able to step through your program might not be the only >>> advantage according to this guy: >>> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.njyD-G9Guel94cysnV2BxwEsCo&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc> Why I’m switching over from the awesome Arduino IDE to ...<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc> www.youtube.com In this video I would like to explain why I’m switching over from the Atmel IDE to Atmel studio for my personal projects. 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And let’s explain it with a simple ... > www.youtube.com<http://www.youtube.com> [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Logo_Youtube.svg/200px-Logo_Youtube.svg.png]<http://www.youtube.com/> YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/> www.youtube.com Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube. > In this video I would like to explain why I’m switching over from the Atmel > IDE to Atmel studio for my personal projects. And let’s explain it with a > simple code ... > > > >>> >>> Good luck and let us know how you get on. >>> >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:02 PM >>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? >>> >>> Wow, >>> >>> Thanks guys... lots of great info! >>> >>> I did end up buying the Atmel ICE. It turned out to be $80 plus >>> shipping and tax after a $50 coupon which expires on 2/28. 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