Well... you might want to read this. https://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-to-install-and-use-windows-10/
http://www.windowscentral.com/you-do-not-need-activate-windows-10 I'm running Atmel Studio on a Windows 10 laptop. As much as I dislike Microsoft, Windows 10 is pretty good. Its very stable. I run "Classic Shell" on all of my windows machines to make them all operate like Windows 7. I have to deal with Windows XP, 7, 8.1, and 10, often at the same time for my day job. Classic Shell keeps me sane. I would not waste my time with Vista. Its just too old. Dave On 2/26/2017 9:26 AM, Martin Dobbins wrote: > Thanks for the update Dave, it's a shame that I'd also have to factor in the > cost of buying a windows licence to run the software. > > > I do have a legal copy of windows vista, but I don't think studio 7 will run > on anything earlier than windows 7? > > > Martin > > > ________________________________ > From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:18 PM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? > > > >>Good luck and let us know how you get on. > > Just some feedback on this Atmel ICE and Atmel Studio 7. > I loaded it up today and connected it to a Arduino Uno Clone ($10 off > Amazon). > > Atmel Studio 7 is really nice! > > I followed the example in the link here: > http://blog.solutions-cubed.com/debugging-arduino-sketches-with-atmel-studio-7/ > > > Atmel Studio 7 can open an existing Arduino sketch and import it into > Atmel studio and at the same time it exposes all of the overhead > software in the Arduino. > > I opened a Sketch I already had, set a few break points and watched it > run. The software stopped at the break points and and I could > interrogate variables via the command window. I had previously altered > the sketch to output some text messages to the Arduino IDE serial > window, so I fired up the Arduino IDE and opened the serial window and I > could see the text messages there and watch for breakpoints in Atmel > Studio at the same time. > > With the ICE, I can now pause and resume the program execution at > anytime, and when paused, interrogate the program for variable values > just as I could after a breakpoint was met. I believe I can also set > them. The commands available in the Atmel Studio command window is > extensive. > > I'm only scratching the surface of this Atmel IDE but it is a huge > improvement over just having the Arduino IDE. > > For $90 including tax and shipping, this is a no-brainer for debugging > difficult programs. This will be a big time saver. > > Dave > > > On 2/25/2017 11:49 AM, Dave Cole wrote: >> That's really interesting. Thanks for the link. >> I read some things before about the Arduino overhead impacting user >> code. That is a glaring example. >> I'm trying to stay as generic as possible.. if I need to dip into the >> hardware specifics because of the overhead in the Arduino I will, but >> it sure would be nice to try and keep the code generic as possible >> since Arduino has both AVR and ARM boards. And I certainly don't >> want to toss all of the established device libraries for the Arduino >> out the window. >> >> I guess it may be human nature to try and keep things cheap, but if a >> project is not going to result in hundreds or thousands of devices >> being made, the cost difference between a AVR or ARM seem to be almost >> irrelevant compared to the labor/time involved. Hopefully by trying to >> keep things fairly generic I can move between the two as it makes sense. >> >> Regarding the Atmel ICE and Microchip; I ordered the ICE late one >> night, the following day Microchip shipped it out and I had it the >> next day. They shipped it overnight even though I didn't ask for >> overnight shipping. So far, Microchip has me impressed. I'll let you >> know what I find regarding the ICE. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave >> >> On 2/23/2017 10:09 PM, Martin Dobbins wrote: >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> >>> Being able to step through your program might not be the only >>> advantage according to this guy: >>> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc > [https://www.bing.com/th?id=OVP.njyD-G9Guel94cysnV2BxwEsCo&pid=Api]<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc> > > Why I’m switching over from the awesome Arduino IDE to > ...<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=648Tx5N9Zoc> > www.youtube.com > In this video I would like to explain why I’m switching over from the Atmel > IDE to Atmel studio for my personal projects. And let’s explain it with a > simple code ... > > > >>> >>> Good luck and let us know how you get on. >>> >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:02 PM >>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] OT - Arduino development - Atmel ICE useful ? >>> >>> Wow, >>> >>> Thanks guys... lots of great info! >>> >>> I did end up buying the Atmel ICE. It turned out to be $80 plus >>> shipping and tax after a $50 coupon which expires on 2/28. I will feel >>> better having it available. >>> >>> This is the full Atmel ICE kit, not the basic kit. >>> >>> http://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/productdetails.aspx?partno=atatmel-ice > Atmel-ICE - ATATMEL-ICE | Microchip Technology > Inc.<http://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/productdetails.aspx?partno=atatmel-ice> > www.microchip.com > Atmel-ICE is a powerful development tool for debugging and programming ARM® > Cortex®-M based SAM and AVR microcontrollers with on-chip debug capability. > > > >>> Atmel-ICE - ATATMEL-ICE | Microchip Technology >>> Inc.<http://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/productdetails.aspx?partno=atatmel-ice> > Atmel-ICE - ATATMEL-ICE | Microchip Technology > Inc.<http://www.microchip.com/developmenttools/productdetails.aspx?partno=atatmel-ice> > www.microchip.com > Atmel-ICE is a powerful development tool for debugging and programming ARM® > Cortex®-M based SAM and AVR microcontrollers with on-chip debug capability. > > > >>> www.microchip.com<http://www.microchip.com> > Home | Microchip Technology Inc.<http://www.microchip.com/> > www.microchip.com > DSC6000. Microchip offers a family of highly integrated, low-cost Real-Time > Clock/Calendar devices with battery backup capability, digital trimming along > with onboard ... > > > >>> Atmel-ICE is a powerful development tool for debugging and >>> programming ARM® Cortex®-M based SAM and AVR microcontrollers with >>> on-chip debug capability. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/23/2017 11:53 AM, Nicklas Karlsson wrote: >>>>> Search on ebay for STM32F103. 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