Hello Chris,

I might be missing something, but I don't think it's a closed loop motor.
They never mention position loop, and I can't see an encoder.

27 трав. 2017 р. 10:56 пп "Chris Albertson" <[email protected]>
пише:

> Hi,
>
> Has anyone here experience with this?
>
> I think these are new.  I've seen them on some web sites and also eBay.   I
> can't find any good engineering information yet, like user manuals or
> speed/torque plots but the idea is great.
>
> They are an integrated closed loop driver/controller and motor.  The
> feedback loop is done inside the motor. They are MUCH better at holding
> torque at high speed than are normal steppers.  More like a servo but at
> much lower cost.     The motor accepts DC power (about 36 volts) and step
> and direction.  Here is one example from eBay
>
> Building the driver into the motor is good.  For closed loop control the
> driver must be matched to the motor so you would always buy them in pairs
> anyway.  Placing them in one unit saves the need to run a lot of wire and
> all the noise problems and lowers the over all cost.   The driver cane made
> simpler and cheaper because it does not need to be general purpose, it just
> drive the motor with known inductance and resistance.
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nema23-57BYG-Stepper-Motor-Integrated-Driver.....
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nema23-57BYG-Stepper-Motor-
> Integrated-Driver-2-in-1-L112mm-3Nm-24-48VDC-CNC/
> 192011640913?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%
> 3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D40130%26meid%
> 3Dbc8047bd176346b9a8fbf5703256f1ef%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%
> 26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D262565354603>
>
> I saw a youtube video demo of one of these that showed it holding
> position.  It was using almost no current and the motor was cool.  But then
> if you apply force to the shaft the current zooms up to counter the applied
> force, like a servo  Basically it IS a servo.  There is an optical
> encoder.  The above web page has a block diagram.
>
> All the good info is in Chinese.  Perhaps someone here is good at technical
> Chinese.  My wife can read only the very basic stuff and Google translation
> is not so good.  I think these are designed and sold into the Chinese
> domestic market hence no US sales office or English technical documents.
>
> This eBay unit is cheaper than a conventional setup.    I think this is the
> way things are moving
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Albertson
> Redondo Beach, California
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