On Tuesday 24 October 2017 09:54:23 jrmitchellj . wrote:

> I would thin a 1HP drive should be able to plow through and thread a
> 3.8" hole without much grief, especially in low gear.
>
I have the servo amp current limit set at around 15 amps, and I can hear 
it squeaking as it regulates under a heavy load, and a 3/8"x18 tap is 
that, set for 1/2 turn per peck, it bogs down and the squeak is quite 
audible. The problem is the backgear ratio, its only 2/1. For tapping it 
really ought to be 10/1 if its being asked to turn a 3/8 or a 10mm tap.

> I have not set up my system for low range yet.  Allot to think about
> on that.  Still working on the basic system & bugs.

I just use enough Pgain so it turns the motor up and makes about 90% of 
the requested speed when its in backgear.  That also means the near for 
at-speed has a wide window. Probably too wide but its working. :)

What mill are you working on?, this is a grizzly g0704. Dirt cheap, 
basically a 400 lb table topper on a stand. I needed something to carve 
green and green style box joints in a full 12" (11.4 actually) mahogany 
board for a furniture project x 3 more as I'm making one for each of my 
4 boys.

For that it worked very well, but the mahogany I bought was kiln fried, 
poorly stickered and warped so bad it was impossible to use it for the 
boxes lids. I took a lid back and let it rock on the counter where I 
bought it, and they took about a year to locate some that wasn't warped 
in the kiln.  Once heated, the lignite is set forever so its not 
possible to unwarp it. A nominally 2' x 4' lid rocked about 4" on 
diagonal corners.  Obviously at the price of mahogany, I was not a happy 
camper.  Just that lid was around $90 worth of wood at nearly 8 sq ft.

> I was just thrilled to get the speed indicator and "at speed" signals
> working correctly!

Yes, that does widen the grin. :-)

> Ray

I have some other stuff in an xml file for the right hand window, stuff 
like a soft start tally for the spindle motor psu, otherwise it clears a 
20 amp breaker at power up, two more for spindle direction, and a bunch 
of stuff to run an endoscope camera mounted on the spindle lock ring. 
I'm finding I have to rewrite most of those commands, and I was working 
on that when a short to the data cable blew my 5i25's. So there is work 
yet to be done.

The xml for that gui is pretty much done, and I can send it along if it 
would give you some ideas.  Just ask.

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> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 5:47 AM, John Kasunich
> <jmkasun...@fastmail.fm>
>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 08:14 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> > > On 24 October 2017 at 12:10, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > > > Correct, except encoder.nn.velocity is fed thru a last 4 edges
> > > > averager to remove some of the noise in the encoders output.
> > > > That unforch also affects the spindle to Z phaseing in the G33.1
> > > > backout.
> > >
> > > You might want to filter the velociity, but I see no point in
> > > filtering the position, which is what G33.1 uses
> > >
> > > You could also try using the DPLL timer to take jitter out of your
> > > encoder sampling. That's a pretty simple setting with the right
> > > firmware (one that ends in "D" for DPLL)
> >
> > I'm pretty sure Gene's "4 edge average" is dealing with mechanical
> > errors in his homebrew spindle encoder rather then sampling jitter.
> > The 4 edges mean that it averages over a full quadrature cycle and
> > thus deviations from proper 90 degree quadrature phasing are
> > masked.
> >
> >   John Kasunich
> >   jmkasun...@fastmail.fm
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