On Tuesday 24 October 2017 10:23:13 Peter C. Wallace wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Oct 2017, John Kasunich wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2017 08:47:02 -0400
> > From: John Kasunich <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> >     <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] One final Q re using a dc spindle motor
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 24, 2017, at 08:14 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> >> On 24 October 2017 at 12:10, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> >>> Correct, except encoder.nn.velocity is fed thru a last 4 edges
> >>> averager to remove some of the noise in the encoders output. That
> >>> unforch also affects the spindle to Z phaseing in the G33.1
> >>> backout.
> >>
> >> You might want to filter the velociity, but I see no point in
> >> filtering the position, which is what G33.1 uses
> >>
> >> You could also try using the DPLL timer to take jitter out of your
> >> encoder sampling. That's a pretty simple setting with the right
> >> firmware (one that ends in "D" for DPLL)
> >
> > I'm pretty sure Gene's "4 edge average" is dealing with mechanical
> > errors in his homebrew spindle encoder rather then sampling jitter.
> > The 4 edges mean that it averages over a full quadrature cycle and
> > thus deviations from proper 90 degree quadrature phasing are
> > masked.
> >
> >  John Kasunich
> >  [email protected]
>
> I have considered capturing a timestamp per quadrature state change (4
> timestamp registers) then the drivers velocity estimation code could
> have the option of chosing time deltas from the same quadrature edge
> as the previous servo thread reading, but usually find I have other
> things to do...

Chuckle, that old saw about the road to hell comes to mind, Peter.  If 
anything like me, you first have to find a round tuit, and I am still 
looking for the artwork to do that which is not bound up an half a dozen 
copyright claims.

Thanks. When I get these blanket chests finished and stuffed in vehicles 
going west, I'll get back to that project and make you one if I don't 
miss roll call some morning first.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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