I actually tried this technique previously using the ats675s but I couldn't get a satisfactory quadrature output, my gear teeth produced more like a 25-30% on time and 70% off, so clocking the two sensors for real quadrature was problematic and didn't really provide the result I was looking for, plus it put my sensors inside a pretty greasy/oily gearbox which didn't make adjusting things appealing or convenient. A single ATS601 was used with a small dimple in the gear face to pickup an index pulse, that did work pretty well.

I'm not trying to mount at the top of the spindle but need to leave room for drawbar equipment. I guess I could mount a small toothed pulley/belt and bring something out the side to a traditional rotary encoder, but theres not a lot of mounting area, seems inconvnient, ugly, etc. With something lower profile like the AEDR lineup it might be do-able directly under the drawbar equipment.

Another alternative I do have is to pick up off a shaft stub that comes out the back of the Z column with a traditional rotary encoder, some lathe work and a mounting bracket. But that shaft is 2 gear pairs away from the spindle so there seems to be about a degree or so of backlash in the interface between it in the spindle, I haven't measured an exact amount yet. My guess is this won't be the worlds biggest issue, but doesn't sound ideal. I don't plan on doing much rigid tapping, but I can imagine some scenarios where having better spindle position information would be useful.

Dave

On Thu, 01 Nov 2018 12:36:04 -0400, Jon Elson <[email protected]> wrote:

On 11/01/2018 03:09 AM, Chris Albertson wrote:
You don't want to block the hole in the spindle so you are looking for an
encoder with a large hole though it?    Is that right?

If the spindle is belt or gear driven you could place the sensor on the
gear or pulley that drives the spindle.   You could also place a timing
belt puley on the spindle then drive the encoder with a 1:1 belt drive.
1:1 drive would allow using a 3 channel encoder

Yes, see :
http://pico-systems.com/bridge_spindle.html
I did this a number of years ago on my Bridgeport mill, but it could be done on a lathe as well. These sensors are ideal for this purpose, as they have logic to detect the PASSING of the gear tooth, not just the presence/absence of a tooth.

Jon


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