On Thursday 29 November 2018 13:59:51 Chris Albertson wrote:

> I bought a few inductive sensors on eBay.  These are surprisingly
> repeatable and very precise. They are cheap and easy to use.  THe come
> in different diameters.   The one I like best has M12x1 threads on the
> body.
>
> Here is an example:
> ebay.com/itm/DC-3-Wire-6-36V-Inductive-Proximity-Sensor-Detection-Swit
>ch-NPN-LJ12A3-4-Z-AX-US/
> <https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-3-Wire-6-36V-Inductive-Proximity-Sensor-D
>etection-Switch-NPN-LJ12A3-4-Z-AX-US/162683352852?hash=item25e0aef714:g
>:ZqcAAOSw3GtZxVse:rk:2:pf:0>
>
> Place this so that it detects the steel set screw that holds the drive
> gear to the spindle.  If there is no such screw then find a place to
> install a steel screw that sticks out about 5mm and have it pass close
> to the sensor head.
>
> For experiments, I made e 3D printed plastic bracket that has M12x1
> internal threads.  The supplied lock nut is too crude.  A 20mm deep
> threaded hole holds the sensor more securely.   The sensor has very
> clean output and measures distance, as well as the "good" quality
> microswitches. Use the leading edge of the pulse is an "index"
>
> BTW these are not so good for sensing gear teeth, 

I'd expect that to be a speed problem in the sensor, inherent in 
inductive sensors. Not fast enough when gear teeth are going by at good 
speeds.

I have a quite nice quadrature encoder I built in my 11x36 Sheldon, with 
2 ATS-667's sensing the 60 tooth bull gears teeth passing, and a third 
watching the end of a headless steel screw gooped to the side of a tooth 
of that same bull gear.  These are hall effect devices with a bit of 
autocorrection for distants's, so they give about 55% duty cycle pulses 
even with a wee bit of runnout in the gears turning. I am not PIDing the 
motor speed since its a vfd which is - maybe 5% of commanded speed 
depending on load.

Because of the ATD-667's distance auto correction, this would not be a 
good home sensor, for that the absolute distance of the inductive sensor 
would be more accurate.

> A "bolt head sensor" 
> is what these are.   THey would make a very nice home sensor for a
> mill. because they are water and oil proff with no moving parts and
> are "non-contact"
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 9:46 AM andy pugh <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 at 17:16, David Berndt <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ok, thanks guys. I'll go with a seperate encoder to pickup a once
> > per
> >
> > > rotation count. Are there any requirements about on/off span in
> > > relation to A/B.
> >
> > No, any once-per-rev pulse will do.
> > As  has been mentioned, unless you want to do peck-tapping you can
> > probably get away without an index.
> > I think that even gear-hobbing would work fine.
> > You would need a proper index for spindle orient if there is a tool
> > changer.
> >
> > --
> > atp
> > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> > lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916
> >
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