How about a Chevalier 2040 VMCL Vertical Machining Center with Anilam 6400 M 
control.
Found one just a few miles from us.  Probably go look at it.  Add says it 
powers up but won't run because of no air.
Very nice clean looking machine from the photos.  Widow is liquidating her 
husband's shop (he passed a year ago) and this is the last machine she has to 
sell. Asking $6000 obo.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street 
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-----Original Message-----
From: bari <bari00...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:08 PM
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machine For Conversion?

Hi Stuart,

The Matsuura MC-1000V5  Spindle Speed: 3,600 RPM Geared Head. Surprised me as 
well.

Spindle Taper: BT45

They are beasts. I have a slightly smaller 710V that I use for just about 
anything.

Wish it was closer but there are several smaller ones within an hours drive 
from me for cheap.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-MATSUURA-MC-500V-CNC-with-YASNAC-3000G-control/283531831618
$2k

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Matsuura-MC-1000-VX-vertical-milling-center-55-table/201871869576
$4.5K

-Bari

On 11/6/19 12:58 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
> The Matsuura will cut anything. Probably not more than 2000 rpm.
>  The Supermax should be an ok machine.
>  The Haas will be fine for most things.
>  If the box ways on the Matsuura look good then you can't beat it at 
> that price.
> I don't know if the Supermax is box ways or linear guides. If it is 
> box ways and they look good then it will be fine.
>  The Haas will be linear guides. Pretty easily replaced and not too 
> expensive unless the prices have gone up lately.
>  My preference would be the Matsuura as it will be a very solid 
> machine. It is a 50 taper machine and you can push it as hard as you want.
>  The 35 taper will limit the size of tooling you can use. But, that 
> might be just fine for the work you expect to do.
> The Haas is a 40 taper. And will cut like a light duty 40 taper. It 
> will make a lot of parts for you.
> Just my two cents.
> Stuart
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 12:40 PM bari <bari00...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Another option for low bucks and not too far:
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Matsuura-MC1000V5/264284983596  only 
>> $2500 or best and still works.
>>
>> “Machine is located in MD and is still under power for inspection.
>> Machine has been in a family owned shop and has been treated well.”
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/19 12:32 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
>>> The seller who is the original owner says that the machine is tight 
>>> and
>> was in good operating condition when it was pulled from service 10 
>> years ago.
>>> The machine was used primarily for mold making back in the day, so 
>>> I'm
>> pretty sure it has full 3 axis.
>>> The main decision maker is having cold feet, now and thinks it would 
>>> be
>> a better plan to buy something 4x as expensive and 20years newer, 
>> that would have a serviceable control as is.  (and he may be right.)  
>> But I was kind of looking forward to the challenge.
>>> Now He thinks this might be a better deal for us.
>>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Haas-VF-2-D-Vertical-Machining-Center-S
>> ide-Mount-ATC/323966324202?hash=item4b6de5cdea:g:LH0AAOSw7RtdvDET
>>> I really don't know much about metal working machines, all of my
>> experience is with wood working CNC routers.
>>> Anyone here familiar with Haas VF-2 machines, and their controls of
>> approximately year 2001 vintage?
>>> Todd Zuercher
>>> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>>> 630 Henry Street
>>> Dalton, Ohio 44618
>>> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TERRY Christophersen <tcninj...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:14 PM
>>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
>>> <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machine For Conversion?
>>>
>>> BT 35 holders are more than 40taper.
>>> Just something to think about
>>> I have a Kitamura with 35 taper.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 6, 2019, at 11:40 AM, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 17:06, Todd Zuercher <to...@pgrahamdunn.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> How good of a candidate for conversion would an old YCI SuperMax 
>>>>> 60A
>> be.
>>>>> We are considering buying this.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/bfs/d/cnc-vertical-machining-ce
>>>>> nte
>>>>> r-supermax/7010042462.html
>>>> I think it would depend on the condition of the ways. It is nice 
>>>> that it has a toolchanger.
>>>> Make sure that it has one motor per axis, and isn't one of those 
>>>> that shares one motor and clutches the axes in and out.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> atp
>>>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is 
>>>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils 
>>>> and
>> lunatics."
>>>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916
>>>>
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