That is the plan.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street 
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-----Original Message-----
From: bari <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 4:20 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machine For Conversion?

Being so close and if it works (bring a big compressor to try it). I'd get it. 
It has linear way vs box and 6K rpm CAT40 spindle.

On 11/6/19 2:50 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
> How about a Chevalier 2040 VMCL Vertical Machining Center with Anilam 6400 M 
> control.
> Found one just a few miles from us.  Probably go look at it.  Add says it 
> powers up but won't run because of no air.
> Very nice clean looking machine from the photos.  Widow is liquidating her 
> husband's shop (he passed a year ago) and this is the last machine she has to 
> sell. Asking $6000 obo.
>
> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
> 630 Henry Street
> Dalton, Ohio 44618
> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bari <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 2:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machine For Conversion?
>
> Hi Stuart,
>
> The Matsuura MC-1000V5  Spindle Speed: 3,600 RPM Geared Head. Surprised me as 
> well.
>
> Spindle Taper: BT45
>
> They are beasts. I have a slightly smaller 710V that I use for just about 
> anything.
>
> Wish it was closer but there are several smaller ones within an hours drive 
> from me for cheap.
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-MATSUURA-MC-500V-CNC-with-YASNAC-3000G-c
> ontrol/283531831618
> $2k
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Matsuura-MC-1000-VX-vertical-milling-center-5
> 5-table/201871869576
> $4.5K
>
> -Bari
>
> On 11/6/19 12:58 PM, Stuart Stevenson wrote:
>> The Matsuura will cut anything. Probably not more than 2000 rpm.
>>  The Supermax should be an ok machine.
>>  The Haas will be fine for most things.
>>  If the box ways on the Matsuura look good then you can't beat it at 
>> that price.
>> I don't know if the Supermax is box ways or linear guides. If it is 
>> box ways and they look good then it will be fine.
>>  The Haas will be linear guides. Pretty easily replaced and not too 
>> expensive unless the prices have gone up lately.
>>  My preference would be the Matsuura as it will be a very solid 
>> machine. It is a 50 taper machine and you can push it as hard as you want.
>>  The 35 taper will limit the size of tooling you can use. But, that 
>> might be just fine for the work you expect to do.
>> The Haas is a 40 taper. And will cut like a light duty 40 taper. It 
>> will make a lot of parts for you.
>> Just my two cents.
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 12:40 PM bari <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Another option for low bucks and not too far:
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Matsuura-MC1000V5/264284983596  only
>>> $2500 or best and still works.
>>>
>>> “Machine is located in MD and is still under power for inspection.
>>> Machine has been in a family owned shop and has been treated well.”
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/6/19 12:32 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote:
>>>> The seller who is the original owner says that the machine is tight 
>>>> and
>>> was in good operating condition when it was pulled from service 10 
>>> years ago.
>>>> The machine was used primarily for mold making back in the day, so 
>>>> I'm
>>> pretty sure it has full 3 axis.
>>>> The main decision maker is having cold feet, now and thinks it 
>>>> would be
>>> a better plan to buy something 4x as expensive and 20years newer, 
>>> that would have a serviceable control as is.  (and he may be right.) 
>>> But I was kind of looking forward to the challenge.
>>>> Now He thinks this might be a better deal for us.
>>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-Haas-VF-2-D-Vertical-Machining-Center-
>>> S ide-Mount-ATC/323966324202?hash=item4b6de5cdea:g:LH0AAOSw7RtdvDET
>>>> I really don't know much about metal working machines, all of my
>>> experience is with wood working CNC routers.
>>>> Anyone here familiar with Haas VF-2 machines, and their controls of
>>> approximately year 2001 vintage?
>>>> Todd Zuercher
>>>> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>>>> 630 Henry Street
>>>> Dalton, Ohio 44618
>>>> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TERRY Christophersen <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2019 1:14 PM
>>>> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Machine For Conversion?
>>>>
>>>> BT 35 holders are more than 40taper.
>>>> Just something to think about
>>>> I have a Kitamura with 35 taper.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 6, 2019, at 11:40 AM, andy pugh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 17:06, Todd Zuercher 
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> How good of a candidate for conversion would an old YCI SuperMax 
>>>>>> 60A
>>> be.
>>>>>> We are considering buying this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/bfs/d/cnc-vertical-machining-c
>>>>>> e
>>>>>> nte
>>>>>> r-supermax/7010042462.html
>>>>> I think it would depend on the condition of the ways. It is nice 
>>>>> that it has a toolchanger.
>>>>> Make sure that it has one motor per axis, and isn't one of those 
>>>>> that shares one motor and clutches the axes in and out.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> atp
>>>>> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is 
>>>>> designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils 
>>>>> and
>>> lunatics."
>>>>> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1916
>>>>>
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