On Thursday 12 December 2019 05:22:45 Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote:

> The X10 protocol has been used much more recently than 40 years ago.
> Several manufacturers have made, and some still make, X10 based
> equipment. Even IBM got into it for a while. The originating company
> is still in business at x10.com

Yes, true. But has there been any new production in 30 years?  It looks 
like its all NOS. CM11a's haven't been available for a very long time. 
Decades. They should have added 5 bucks and made it usb compatible 20 
years ago when usb replaced seriel ports.

Now there seem to be a plethora of competing products, nearly all useing 
different proprietary protocols.  heyu is attempting to track them and 
become compatible but other than heyu's own src code there is not a list 
of compatible stuff you can buy at Lowes.

As a co-author with Jim Hines of EZHome and EZCron for the Amiga's, I 
have tracked that scene nearly as well as the heyu folks have. I'd love 
to find a competing products appliance module that was newly designed 
and didn't depend on a plastic molded alternate action relay. Crydom has 
done it since the early '80's now with no moving parts, I am switching 
the primarys of 6 toroid and one conventional transformers in my machine 
controls with crydoms or their lookalikes for much of a decade with no 
problems with them, why can't x10. That relay gizmo has never been 100% 
reliable after about the first 100 operations.
 
>     On Wednesday, December 11, 2019, 10:19:29 PM MST, Gene Heskett
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  On Wednesday 11 December 2019 21:43:44 jrmitchellj . wrote:
> > An X10 appliance module would be a better option for that.  Lamp
> > modules are essentially dimmers.
> >
> > --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
> > [email protected]
>
> Does that make a huge diff to a switch mode psu?
>
> Using an appliance module means the lubricant in that alternate action
> relay is 40+ years old. I have a couple of those, controling Christmas
> lights on the front deck, and they have reached the age at which even
> 3 bangs from heyu a second apart will not reliably switch them. 
> Attempts to re-lubricate them have not been successful here.
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