Take a 12V power supply and measure the current drawn by the encoder at 12V.  
Say it's 100mA.  That's 1.2W from I * V.  You want to drop 12V from the 24V 
supply.

12V / 0.1A  is 120 Ohms but it should probably be about 2W or better.  If all 
you have are 1/2W resistors then four 470 ohm (standard value) in parallel is 
117 Ohms.  Or some 510 Ohm or a mix in parallel.  

But measure the encoder while you are turning it just in case it draws more at 
one position than another.  

John Dammeyer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew beck [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: March-30-20 7:40 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] connecting up mpg
> 
> hey guys I love both the suggestions.  I have a problem though.
> 
> the whole of New Zealand is currently on lockdown and I can't buy anything.
> 
> I have a whole box of resistors that I bought and might have a few diodes
> left.
> 
> is it possible to hack something together for now?
> 
> and also do you guys think it would be possible to connect 24 volts
> directly to the 12 volt mpg or I am going to blow something?  my initial
> thought it bad idea but it can't hurt to ask
> 
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:36 PM Chris Albertson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > How much current is needed in the 12 volt supply?   I'm guessing less
> > than 100 ma.
> >
> > If you have 24 volts DC available then you can drop it down to 12 volts a
> > few different ways but the simplest might be an LM7812 linear regulator.
> > The LM7812 is nearly bomb proof. These cost under $2
> > Look at figure 9 on the datasheet and note the values of the caps are not
> > critical at all.  https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/149/LM7812-461970.pdf
> > <https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/149/LM7812-461970.pdf>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM andrew beck <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > hey guys I was asking about connecting a 12v mpg encoder to my mesa 7i76
> > > card. last week.  I have done some testing with a pc atx power supply
> > and a
> > > multimeter and it looks like at 12 v when measuring between the A channel
> > > and ground(0V) the high value is 5.2 volts and low is zero(or close to
> > it)
> > > also there are some nice status leds that show what the channels on the
> > mpg
> > > are doing.
> > >
> > > when powering it with 5 volts the leds don't work and the high voltage is
> > > 2.7 volts and the low is zero volts.  I read the threshold in the mpg
> > > inputs is 2.5 volts with 10 percent hysteresis so I need to pull at least
> > > 2.8 volts.  also I am thinking that might be a bit close and result is
> > > unreliable operation.
> > >
> > > Is there anyway I can supply this with 12 volts from my board?  I am
> > > running the field voltage at 24volts.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:53 AM Peter C. Wallace <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, andrew beck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:34:01 +1300
> > > > > From: andrew beck <[email protected]>
> > > > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > > >     <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] connecting up mpg
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Peter.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I enable the mpg mode does that mean I will lose my whole config
> > > or
> > > > do
> > > > > I just need to change something in the Hal file.
> > > >
> > > > YOU just change some settings in the hal file
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm thinking It sounds like the best thing is to setup all my io in
> > > > > pnfconfig leaving the mpg inputs spare and then after that start hard
> > > > > coding in Hal.
> > > >
> > > > Yes leave the 2 or 4 pins (for 1 or 2 MPGs) free if you want to use a
> > MPG
> > > > Note the enabling the MPG in the hal file will not cause you to lose
> > the
> > > > ability
> > > > to use inputs 16..19  for normal digital input use
> > > >
> > > > > Do you know how much I can do in pnfconfig?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I dont think pncconf supports MPG setup, so this needs to be done by
> > > > editing the
> > > > HAL file
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > New Zealand is going in to total isolation for a month from tomorrow
> > > > > because of covid 19 so I have some time for this lol :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrew
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mar 24, 2020 3:18 AM, "Peter C. Wallace" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020, andrew beck wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:32:56 +1300
> > > > >> From: andrew beck <[email protected]>
> > > > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > > > >>     <[email protected]>
> > > > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
> > > > [email protected]>
> > > > >> Subject: [Emc-users] connecting up mpg
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey guys.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have a 12 volt mpg
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I want to connect it to the 7i76 board.  do you know if I can
> > connect
> > > it
> > > > >> straight up.  I think that the mesa boards only want 5 v and I am
> > not
> > > > sure
> > > > >> how to connect up my 12 volt mpg
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOF2y7KFSchXLhQ3s79GSB1x_WZieQ5l/view?usp=sharing
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I did a bunch of searches on the forum but couldn't get a definite
> > > > answer.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I tried to attach a photo but it bounced back.  so here is a link
> > > > >>
> > > > >> regards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You can connect a 12V MPG to the 7I76 MPG inputs (field inputs
> > 16..19),
> > > > but
> > > > > not
> > > > > the high speed encoder input. Note that the input threshold for MPG
> > > > inputs
> > > > > is
> > > > > 2.5V so the MPG output needs to swing close to ground for reliable
> > > > operation
> > > > >
> > > > >
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