hey guys I grabbed another MPG I had on my slant bed lathe that needs a
retrofit next, this one is a 5 volt mpg so I get a way from the
annoyance for now of having a 12 volt mpg though I will still try Johns
idea with resistors as this other mpg is a fanuc brand and much stiffer and
not so nice as my first option so I will probably use the other option

can I just get you guys to look over my thinking here and tell me if I am
moving in the right direction?

by the looks of it first things first I need to set up my 7i76 into mpg
mode with this piece of code in the Hal file
*sserial_port_0=20xxxxxx*
Then I need to connect up mpg to inputs 16 and 17.

Power from 24 volts io power source (pulled down to 12 volts by resistors)

For the rest I am following Rods excellent spaceship build thread he
explains it so good.  I will probably be in touch about the Hal connections
though

So I think I am away laughing.

Though now I'm thinking I need to get a mpg pendant instead of just
installing the mpg in the panel haha.

Does anyone have any reasonablely priced simple mpg pendants I can buy?  I
just want a estop, selector switches and mpg on it.  And would like cheap
lol😂

Regards

Andrew

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:39 PM andrew beck <[email protected]>
wrote:

> hey guys I love both the suggestions.  I have a problem though.
>
> the whole of New Zealand is currently on lockdown and I can't buy anything.
>
> I have a whole box of resistors that I bought and might have a few diodes
> left.
>
> is it possible to hack something together for now?
>
> and also do you guys think it would be possible to connect 24 volts
> directly to the 12 volt mpg or I am going to blow something?  my initial
> thought it bad idea but it can't hurt to ask
>
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:36 PM Chris Albertson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> How much current is needed in the 12 volt supply?   I'm guessing less
>> than 100 ma.
>>
>> If you have 24 volts DC available then you can drop it down to 12 volts a
>> few different ways but the simplest might be an LM7812 linear regulator.
>> The LM7812 is nearly bomb proof. These cost under $2
>> Look at figure 9 on the datasheet and note the values of the caps are not
>> critical at all.
>> https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/149/LM7812-461970.pdf
>> <https://www.mouser.com/datasheet/2/149/LM7812-461970.pdf>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 6:54 PM andrew beck <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > hey guys I was asking about connecting a 12v mpg encoder to my mesa 7i76
>> > card. last week.  I have done some testing with a pc atx power supply
>> and a
>> > multimeter and it looks like at 12 v when measuring between the A
>> channel
>> > and ground(0V) the high value is 5.2 volts and low is zero(or close to
>> it)
>> > also there are some nice status leds that show what the channels on the
>> mpg
>> > are doing.
>> >
>> > when powering it with 5 volts the leds don't work and the high voltage
>> is
>> > 2.7 volts and the low is zero volts.  I read the threshold in the mpg
>> > inputs is 2.5 volts with 10 percent hysteresis so I need to pull at
>> least
>> > 2.8 volts.  also I am thinking that might be a bit close and result is
>> > unreliable operation.
>> >
>> > Is there anyway I can supply this with 12 volts from my board?  I am
>> > running the field voltage at 24volts.
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > Andrew
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:53 AM Peter C. Wallace <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, andrew beck wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 07:34:01 +1300
>> > > > From: andrew beck <[email protected]>
>> > > > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> > > >     <[email protected]>
>> > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> > [email protected]
>> > > >
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] connecting up mpg
>> > > >
>> > > > Hey Peter.
>> > > >
>> > > > When I enable the mpg mode does that mean I will lose my whole
>> config
>> > or
>> > > do
>> > > > I just need to change something in the Hal file.
>> > >
>> > > YOU just change some settings in the hal file
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm thinking It sounds like the best thing is to setup all my io in
>> > > > pnfconfig leaving the mpg inputs spare and then after that start
>> hard
>> > > > coding in Hal.
>> > >
>> > > Yes leave the 2 or 4 pins (for 1 or 2 MPGs) free if you want to use a
>> MPG
>> > > Note the enabling the MPG in the hal file will not cause you to lose
>> the
>> > > ability
>> > > to use inputs 16..19  for normal digital input use
>> > >
>> > > > Do you know how much I can do in pnfconfig?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > I dont think pncconf supports MPG setup, so this needs to be done by
>> > > editing the
>> > > HAL file
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > New Zealand is going in to total isolation for a month from tomorrow
>> > > > because of covid 19 so I have some time for this lol :)
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > Andrew
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards
>> > > >
>> > > > Andrew
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mar 24, 2020 3:18 AM, "Peter C. Wallace" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, 23 Mar 2020, andrew beck wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:32:56 +1300
>> > > >> From: andrew beck <[email protected]>
>> > > >> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>> > > >>     <[email protected]>
>> > > >> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <
>> > > [email protected]>
>> > > >> Subject: [Emc-users] connecting up mpg
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hey guys.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I have a 12 volt mpg
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I want to connect it to the 7i76 board.  do you know if I can
>> connect
>> > it
>> > > >> straight up.  I think that the mesa boards only want 5 v and I am
>> not
>> > > sure
>> > > >> how to connect up my 12 volt mpg
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uOF2y7KFSchXLhQ3s79GSB1x_WZieQ5l/view?usp=sharing
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I did a bunch of searches on the forum but couldn't get a definite
>> > > answer.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I tried to attach a photo but it bounced back.  so here is a link
>> > > >>
>> > > >> regards
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > You can connect a 12V MPG to the 7I76 MPG inputs (field inputs
>> 16..19),
>> > > but
>> > > > not
>> > > > the high speed encoder input. Note that the input threshold for MPG
>> > > inputs
>> > > > is
>> > > > 2.5V so the MPG output needs to swing close to ground for reliable
>> > > operation
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >>
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