No, swarf protection could help with cooling.  What if the swarf protection
where a form fitting plastic shell that was (say) 4mm larger than the motor
and pulley and covered everything with just a 4mm air gap?   Then you used
forced air from a fan in the gap.

Hand held drill motors work like this.  They have a form-fitting shell and
put a fan on the motor shaft and push air through screened vents in the
case.  Or just reduce the current in the motor.    The formula for heat is
I-squared-R so you get 4X less heat if you cut the current in half.

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:35 PM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sunday 31 May 2020 12:07:51 Martin Dobbins wrote:
>
> > Caveats:
> >
> > 1:I'm not a 3d printer user, but I may become one after reading this
> > thread: Thanks (I think<grin>)
> >
> > 2:I have very little experience with Openscad.
> >
> > Serve the required grains of salt with the following as required
> >
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >1; Which is a measure of the OD of the rendered pulley, those areas
> > > of the preview gfx are blank, although the scale marks are there,
> > > they are drawn behind the sprocket image. so one could get a very
> > > rough idea of the total radius of the finished gear in mm.  Am I
> > > missing a font, or is this a more serious concern that will need me
> > > to make the gear before I can determine how it fits?
> >
> > Melted plastic contracts as it cools, so getting something on size is
> > an iterative process
> >
> > Print, measure, calculate percentage shrinkage and reprint that
> > percentage oversize.  I understand that most slicer
> >
> > software includes an easy way of doing this (at least I hope so).
> > Rinse and repeat to get something that meets
> >
> > tolerances.  I don't know the answer to the openscad rendering
> > question, but don't you have the parameter values
> >
> > for everything drawn?
> >
> > >2; This motor runs uncomfortably hot, and I've not found anything to
> > >indicate the controller goes into a low current mode at balance, I
> > > left it running at about 1500 revs for half an hour and cannot lay a
> > > hand on it to pick it up, and an extended stop didn't seem to cool
> > > it any, and since that heat will telegraph up the  motors 8mm shaft
> > > to the PLA, is this going to be a life of the sprocket limiting
> > > factor because the PLA will soften and eventually cold flow to a
> > > loose and likely out of concentricity warpage?
> >
> > That's something that you can figure out now, melt temperature and (I
> > just found out from the link below)
> >
> > glass transition temperature 111 to 145F.  Can you squeeze a metallic
> > hub in? Or maybe an aluminum heat sink
> >
> > on the shaft between the motor and where the gear will sit?
> >
> I am thinking of a alu hub with some closely spaced holes drilled thru it
> to reduce the cross sectional area between the 8mm shaft and the
> plastic.  That should give a temp loss of maybe 10-20F across the thin
> web between the holes. But would it be enough?  IDK. Otherwise some sort
> of a forced air cooling system, or give up and use a solid alu pulley
> just for the motor. At the end of all this, it will need swarf
> protection too, and that would also get in the way of any normal
> convection cooling.
> >
> > https://www.creativemechanisms.com/blog/learn-about-polylactic-acid-pl
> >a-prototypes
> >
> > >3; I have the pi3b I took off the Sheldon, and another of those 5v5a
> > >supplies, and I've downloaded the octo-pi image that includes that
> > >slicer.  So that I think solves the slic3r problem of having to
> > > compose a working multi-variable config for slic3r.  Unless someone
> > > has a slic3r config to drive an Ender that they can share.
> >
> > Nope, but a google search found this-any good?
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yIebnVjADM
>
> Yes, where he is done with the assembly, there are some setup hints for
> whatever slicer he is using, I didn't catch it if he did say. but he was
> manipulating it from the printers panel.  So I guess I'll have to build
> mine and see what it has when turned on.
>
> That one can be restarted in the middle of a job, and generally the first
> print was excellent. I am hoping I can do as well.
> >
> >
> > I hope some of that helps?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> >
> >
> >
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