On Friday 16 October 2020 12:26:11 John Dammeyer wrote:

> > From: Thaddeus Waldner [mailto:thadw...@gmail.com]
> > Perhaps a more significant advantage of the servo drive described by
> > John Dammeyer is that it has a current control loop running inside
> > of the LinuxCNC velocity control loop.
> > Pretty fancy to do that on an 8-bit microcontroller. That ATTiny has
> > an on-chip analog comparator.
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 2020, at 10:03 PM, Jon Elson <el...@pico-systems.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 10/15/2020 09:49 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:
> > >> The theory is that if the PWM signal is high the H-Bridge is
> > >> switched to say turn the motor clockwise.  If the PWM signal is
> > >> low
> >
> > the H-Bridge is switch to turn the motor counter clockwise. 
> > Therefore with 50% the motor is first asked to turn one way and then
> > the other.  That results in the motor essentially being locked in
> > place.  Change the PWM on either side of 50% and the turns in the
> > subsequent direction.
> >
> > > This is called synchronous antiphase.  The advantage is there is
> > > no dead zone around zero. The DISadvantage is it causes a
> > > triangle-wave current in the motor which can be quite substantial,
> > > and causes excessive heating of the motor and power transistors.
> > >
> > > Jon
>
> And building these isn't as easy as it may appear at first sight.  I
> bought a couple of UHU boards from a company called
> embeddedtronics.com (no longer around now) that didn't work.  They had
> tried to shrink down the design too much and encoder noised and motor
> noise caused unreliable motion.
>
> Here's one of the early threads (2004) on the UHU.
> https://www.cnczone.com/forums/open-source-controller-boards/14217-cnc
>-software-forum.html
>
> For high power circuit layout is everything.  Especially for EMI
> suppression.  And servo motors can generate a lot of EMI.  I think
> that's why Gene was talking about inductors in series etc.
>
> John Dammeyer
>
Thats part of it John. The "ripple" currents can be quite substantial if 
the pwm frequency is too low. And at 10 KHz tops on the STI chip, I am 
concerned with that and the headaches I can get near ultrasonics enter 
into my worries. Even an ultrasonic burglar alarm, singing along at 44 
kilohertz puts a high pressure feeling in my ears. Very uncomfortable 
even if I can't "hear" it.  

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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