On Friday, December 24, 2021 6:47:33 PM EST John Dammeyer wrote: > I think we perhaps need to take a step back before this turns into a series > of unworkable positions. [...] > The basic setup screens for LinuxCNC for either parallel port or Peter's > MESA stuff is amazing and simple until you need to step outside the box. > And I think, if I were to summarize this I'd say software needs to be > designed so the command line editor is never ever used. Those two sets of > config screen sets are what have allowed most people to set up LinuxCNC. > Take those away, tell them they have to write the HAL and INI file from > scratch and watch them run, quickly, to alternate systems.
What am I? Cat food? John, that box your are complaining about is one heck of a big box. I might run the config ONCE when bringing a new machine to life, from then on anything I do to that machine is done with geany, the text editor. The ONLY problem I've had is a reticence on the part of the developers to add a pin or 9 to allow me to fully use a feature I built into the pi controller on that Sheldon, in a fool proof 100% automatic way. For instance, I put a pair of $20 mpja encoder dials, 100 ppr quadrature output gizmos, so I can drive that Sheldon by hand just as if it still had hand cranks. And they are many many times more convenient to setup a touch off point than any keyboard or mouse driven method, unlike the keyboard or mice they seem to talk directly to the hardware, with no lags like the keyboard or mouse imposes on the accuracy as I can directly dial up a touchoff to within . 0001" or .001mm in metric mode. The machine is not that accurate but the electronics is. But one huge usability problem. Using the mouse or keyboard the active touchoff gets automaticly applied to the last axis you moved. But there were NO input pins to effect that from my dials. I had the signals available, but it took me 3 years of intermittent fussing about it because when I'm doing touchoff's that way, I had to hunt up the mouse, find that teeny little button in the gui, and manually change it to the axis I ws abut to touch off. If my touch off was applied to he wrong axis I broke tooling and muttered a lot. And started all over with the setup. Old habits die, or kill you. I was given the pins a couple months ago and its many times more useful now, no more messed up touchoffs. There is a slight lag though, it seems to be activated on the falling edge of my signal. I can speed that up, just haven't found my round tuit. The one size fits all approach you are touting as superior is not, its a very small box limiting what you can do. Merry Christmas to all. > Enough rambling for now. > John I agree Cheers, Gene Heskett. -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
