I don't think I'm ready for yet another hobby (3-D printing), so I think
I'll just put an oversized motor and pulley.

Gene -- What stepper family are you using for the lathe? (A link, please.)

Regards,

Ken


Kenneth Lerman
55 Main Street
Newtown, CT 06470



On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 12:25 PM gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

> On Friday, February 4, 2022 10:31:23 AM EST Kenneth Lerman wrote:
> > Chris -- At my house, computers are all over the place. I think I have
> > a spare atom floating around. Also a couple of other machines.
> > Gene -- The grinder is here.
> > <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L8JiX0rtDZO99rVnQKNjUH7m-ZgFz2Un/view
> > ?usp=sharing> The
> > ways look pretty clean. The only accessory I have is a magnetic chuck.
> >
> Cute little thing Ken. And with a mag chuck, you stole it.
>
> > I don't really need a surface grinder, but no shop is complete without
> > one. Once I started to use it, I realized that my right arm and
> > shoulder really aren't suited to this type of manual work.
>
> As the senior member here, I get to complain first :) But you're excused
> ;o)
> As to you gear ratio problems, I agree, which is why I designed a small
> variation of a harmonic drive for use on the A axis of my 6040 mill. But
> its too small I think for what you want to do. But the 3d slicer "cura"
> can scale, and if you've a 3d printer that can handle PETG, one of the
> higher temp plastics, on an everyday basis, this thing scaled up 200%
> should do the job for you ok. Gear ratio, about as high as it can go at
> the native size is 50/1 but could be as low as 30/1.
>
> I'm driving it with a 1NM version of the new 3 phase stepper/servo's, but
> that family of servo's can be had at 3NM or about 425 oz/in, as all have
> an 8mm diameter d-flated shaft, which I put on my milling machine, power
> up to lock it and make the flat bigger, so the measurement from flat to
> back of the round is 6.5mm. With a printed armature hub that grips the
> whole shaft its strong enough in PETG that no hard to machine metal hub
> insert is needed. In my size, I can make 2 of them out of a $20 kilo of
> PETG, and a small bottle of crosman bb's, or about 15$ a drive. At a
> scaleup for what you need, about 200%, will x4 the amount of filament,
> and probably x4 the print time too but I don't see why it won't work if
> you wanted to try it. My whole idea is cheap, if it breaks, print
> another.
>
> > The longitudinal travel is just over a foot, and it takes about 3-1/2
> > turns of the crank to go that distance. I'm thinking around  a second
> > per turn would be about the maximum. So, that's 60 RPM. I'm thinking
> > of a 1:6 ratio on the timing belt pulleys, so that's 360 RPM at the
> > stepper which is pretty slow. A full stepping rate would be 200 *
> > 360/60 => 200 * 6 which is only 1200 steps per second.
> >
> > An alternative would be to provide more gearing, but I don't think it's
> > practical to get more than about a six to one ratio in a single belt
> > reduction and I'd like to avoid mechanical complexity if I can.
>
> OpenSCAD, which I used to design this, is quite capable of doing any part
> that fits on the bed of your 3d printer. And if at 87 I can learn it, I'm
> convinced you could too.
>
> Two OpenSCAD master files, are text files, and this drive and the driver
> sprocket to replace the alu crap that came on this A drive originally,
> total about 1400 LOC, several hundred of which is comments so I can
> figure out a month from now, what the heck I was doing. Lots of it is
> from thingiverse, and modified by me. But the final version hasn't made
> it to my web site, yet... Something about the only time a program is
> finished is when someone shoots the programmer.
>
> I am also driving my converted 11x54 Sheldon lathe with the 3NM and 2NM
> versions of this motor/driver stepper/servo. And driven by LinuxCNC
> running on a rpi4, its doing dance steps that it could not do 80 years
> ago when it was shipped to the navy. Including correcting for the 13 thou
> of bed wear right in front of the chuck. This lathe has been rode hard,
> thrown across the truck bed going around a corner too fast and put away
> wet long before it followed me home in a cargo van.
>
> If interested, give me you PM address and I'll email the .scad to you.
>
> > Thoughts?
>
> Take care and stay well.
>
> > Ken
> >
> > Kenneth Lerman
> > 55 Main Street
> > Newtown, CT 06470
> >
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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