Chris just reading your email again and looks like the sensors you linked
are good up to 1 mhz so I'm good to go.

How wide a slot do you think they need to read the light through?

If they could read 0.5mm that would be great

But I probably don't need that accuracy.

I just want it as good as I can get as I know I'll be tapping several
thousand holes.

400 PPR x4 is 1600 PPR.

M12 tap pitch is 1.75mm

1.75/1600=0.001mm

Which is plenty lol.

Maybe I'll try this.

Can I use halscope to check the sensors are making good quadrature




On Mon, 28 Mar 2022, 06:06 Chris Albertson, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> THis goes to 10K RPM?   that is 167 revolutions per second.  400 slots
> means 70 KHz signal.
>
> Can you design an inductive sensor that does 70KHz but is also sensitive
> enough for near zero RPM?   Optical sensors can work up to 1MHz with no
> problem as they don't have any inductanve.    You can buy a "C" space
> sensor for a few dollars
>
> In either case, optical of inductive, you want a 50% "slot" where there is
> as much metal left as cut away  Then the "edges" of the square wave are the
> same in either direction.     The 50% duty cycle in effect doubles the
> sensor resolution.
>
> Why?  Think about the signal when the direction changes.     You have two
> sensors in quadrature and lets say one is being blocked and one is not,  I
> think you want the turnaround to take as long for each sensor.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 2:22 AM Andy Pugh <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > > On 27 Mar 2022, at 08:09, andrew beck <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > And is bigger dia better for higher resolution?
> >
> > Probably not, as it will perhaps have more scope to oscillate at 10,000
> > rpm.
> >
> > Don’t neglect the purely mechanical design of this fast-spinning part.
> >
> > Have you considered optical sensors rather than inductive?
> >
> > What will be counting the pulses?
> >
> > LinuxCNC can lathe-thread with one sensor.
> > But rigid-tapping is different as it needs to accurately detect the
> > reversal point. So you need three channels for index and full quadrature.
> >
> > Work out what error you can accept in the reversal point detection (as a
> > fraction of thread pitch) and you can get a feel for how many slots you
> > need.
> >
> >
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