On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 01:00, Kim Woelders wrote: 
> First, I just checked the behavior of e16.5. It seems that when using
> "include iconified windows", iconified windows are included in the focus
> list only if we are on the desktop (any viewport) where the window was
> iconified (sticky windows are not handled properly).

Hmmm... I don't iconify to a different desktop as often as I do to a
different viewport, so I guess I didn't notice.

> In e16.6 iconified windows are included in the focus list only if we are
> on the same viewport as where the window was iconified (roughly), or if
> the window is sticky.
> This behavior matches the windows shown in the gnome-panel window list.

Makes sense. Except I have GNOME set to "Show windows from all
workspaces" (in window list prefs). If *I* iconify a window when
gnome-panel is running, it shows up in E's focuslist no matter what
desktop I'm on. Hence my confusion.

> So, this can be seen as a conflict between two ways to de-iconify
> windows (to original position/to current viewport).
> Or taking a different view - where do iconified windows "belong"?
> Where they were when iconified or where they would appear if de-iconified?
> As things are now, it will "feel" like iconified windows "exist" at the
> location where they were when iconified. Try navigating around on
> desktops and virtual desktops. This is particularly "visible" when using
> gnome-panel and looking at the items in the window list.
> The iconboxes distort this picture by de-iconifying to the current viewport.

Yes. I was expecting that if I could de-iconify by clicking I could do
the same with the focuslist.

> I'm actually quite happy with the current implementation :-)
> But please do suggest a better solution.

Both problems *could* be solved by adding a preference to the iconbox:
"Show iconified windows from all desktops".[1] As described above, GNOME
and other window-list-type-thingys have this. If it's on, windows show
up in the focuslist and iconbox regardless of where they were iconified
and de-iconify the way they do now. When it's off it works the *your*
gnome-pane works (the default).

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looks like I'm the only one moving."
        -- Steven Wright



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