Hello. On 11/06/2017 11:00 AM, Simon Lees wrote: > > > On 06/11/17 20:19, Stefan Schmidt wrote: >> Hello. >> >> On 11/03/2017 07:07 PM, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote: >>> The E22 release is out now, so it's time to return to this issue. Currently >>> we have two build systems, and maintaining/updating both of them is not >>> feasible. At present, there is already significant divergence and various >>> features are not present in the autotools build (and never will be). The >>> decision is not whether to remove autotools or when to remove autotools, >>> it's what do we do about old distros. >> >> Do we know which old distros are having this problem? >> This is a very similar to other external deps we have. We never really set >> rules on what version our dependencies can have based on what >> distros are shipping. We simply handled them when issues came up. >> >> If the distros are not the latest release of the very distro I would argue >> that they should upgrade. LTS versions are tricky though. >> >>> Based on previous discussions, it seems that there are still some users >>> whose distros do not yet ship a modern enough version of meson. The best >>> option, which is the option other projects which switch to meson have been >>> using, is to simply ship a tarball of a newer meson release along with our >>> code. The other option is to provide a link in the README. I don't have any >>> other ideas. >>> >>> I'll be removing autotools sometime next week, let's try to get some >>> discussion going about the best action to take going forward with this. >> >> I would suggest the following: >> 0) Dig a bit around to see what distros have a *latest* release which does >> not ship 0.39 >> 1) Add a small a link and comment into the README >> 2a) If the majority of distros have it already simply go with the README >> solution >> 2b) If the majority of distros miss the needed meson version either ship the >> tarball or use the autogen.sh pr-build download script Raster >> suggested >> 3) Remove autotools support and monitor what problems come up to point >> people in the right direction >> >> regards >> Stefan Schmidt >> > From a brief memory of when I checked I think Debian was the main one > and given they released earlier this year they are still a year or two > off having a new version unless it can be added in some form of > backports etc.
That is a pity. If it is only Debian though I wonder if we should put the burden of shipping and updating meson our-self. My hope would be that the amount of other software needed a new meson now would bring in some sort of backport for Debian. In the end I do not want to see users out there standing in the rain. If Mike is happy with having the meson tarball shipped with E or having a script that downloads it for the poor folks with and old version that should be ok until Debian catches up. regards Stefan Schmidt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
