On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:55:08 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> 
> On 8-Jul-07, at 7:43 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 02:35:15 +0300 "Hisham Mardam Bey"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> >
> >> On 7/9/07, Виктор Кожухаров <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> One of the options would be to assign a maintainer to each piece of
> >>>> code in our CVS. That maintainer should obviously know the code  
> >>>> very
> >>>> well and should be able to take a decision about a feature
> >>>> improvement, an addition, a patch, a major redesign, and API break,
> >>>> etc... When things have to do with that piece of code, anyone can
> >>>> obviously pitch in, but it will be more or less his decision. If  
> >>>> he is
> >>>> too busy, that person can have a "helper" that is also  
> >>>> knowledgeable
> >>>> about that code and can take a decision. This should help the  
> >>>> entire
> >>>> lag we always have with emails, patches, features, etc. finding  
> >>>> their
> >>>> way into our CVS.
> >>
> >>> My personal view is that dedicated maintainers might be a bit  
> >>> overkill
> >>> at this point. Once projects are finally released, then a dedicated
> >>> maintainer is really justified. But the current code base is  
> >>> constantly
> >>> changing, even if not as drastically as it used to. Furthermore,
> >>> maintainers can never be truly 'dedicated', mainly because of the  
> >>> spare
> >>> time issue. And we all know that spare time is hart to come by, even
> >>> sometimes impossible to obtain.
> >>>
> >>> An intermediate solution would be to discuss any changes on the dev
> >>> mailing list. And by discussing, I don't mean that the proposer  
> >>> should
> >>> post a message, which will be ignored, but people should actually  
> >>> try
> >>> and participate. Furthermore, we should really stick with discussing
> >>> important issues in the dev list, instead of on irc. Mainly, because
> >>> theres a centralized 'log' of the discussions going on here, and  
> >>> there
> >>> is no excuse for someone missing a conversation. I myself have  
> >>> made the
> >>> terrible mistake of discussing changes on irc only, thus keeping
> >>> interested people out of the loop.
> >>
> >> The point here is that leaving things open-ended doesnt always get  
> >> the
> >> job done. If someone wants to work on (for example) Etk, Exhibit,
> >> Evolve, or any related app / libs, I will help them out (and in
> >> reality, only those directly involved with the aforementioned will
> >> help them out).
> >>
> >> The question here is though, what do we do when it comes to things
> >> like Ecore, Evas, and Edje? Who takes the decisions there? Raster is
> >> obviously too busy, others dont really know enough about the
> >> internals, so what do we do? (Note that some people DO know enough
> >> about the internals of those libs, so they need to be handed the
> >> responsibility, if they choose to accept it).
> >>
> >> The question that I will ask again is, "why do we have patches that
> >> are several months old on our mailing list that have not been given a
> >> yes or no yet?".
> >
> > i swear i recently cleaned out the patches - like a few weeks back?
> > Actually.. .I think we need a patches mailing list...?
> 
> Can you say bugzilla? It makes it really easy to deal with patches  
> and let the submitter update them and add comments all in one place.  
> You could also probably get it setup to email a list with bug changes  
> if you wanted.

Can we set up a bugzilla project (per e project) SPECIFICALLY for patches?
(separate it from bug reports)?

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The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本)

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