On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:39:14 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> The DarkMaster wrote:
> > I think almost everyone is understimating the problem. This is a very bad
> > issue only Enlightenment has and a lot people asks why does this happen,
> > even in our OpenGEU FOrums. Even creting EWL, ETK, etc. themes is really
> > something bad a user has to do. Once you create an E17 theme, it should be
> > one for everything, you cannot have to create a theme for every library
> > used. No other DE / VM has such a behaviour. For example, in Gnome you
> > customize everything by creating a GTK theme, same in KDE. A user cannot be
> > left with no choice than creating a single E17 theme and let the others
> > applications look weird and different from the Others. This is rally really
> > bad for any user and it also gives the users a really bad impression of the
> > entire Enlightenment. I think we should find a way to unify everything in a
> > single basic theme that has to be created, Sthithaprajna's way may be one
> > but tehre may be other ways too.
> > 
> > Just please do not understimate this problem, because it is a problem and it
> > a very huge one too.
> >
> 
> This is fine for GTK and KDE as they don't have 3 separate toolkits 
> behind them. Enlightenment has the E17 widgets which theme the window 
> manager, Ewl and Etk as toolkits. All three of these work in a differing 
> fashion and don't depend on each other.
> 
> So, are we going to suddenly require that you have Ewl or Etk installed 
> to use E17 or have E17 installed to use Ewl? That doesn't make much 
> sense as they're independent.
> 
> Until the window manager moves over to a specific widget toolkit we're 
> going to have duplication in our theming.

as will you as long as u have 2 widget sets.

fact: 1 gtk theme does NOt cover metacity - same with qt - does not cover kwin.
they are different. fact is that e doesnt know about ewl or etk. it doesn't try
and do anything. nothing technically stops a single .edj theme shipping
everything, but your gtk and qt apps will still look different too - so are we
now to also somehow try and theme gtk and qt from the same sources? we aren't
even trying to solve this problem.


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