On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 2:01 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:39:14 -0400 dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > The DarkMaster wrote: > > > I think almost everyone is understimating the problem. This is a very bad > > > issue only Enlightenment has and a lot people asks why does this happen, > > > even in our OpenGEU FOrums. Even creting EWL, ETK, etc. themes is really > > > something bad a user has to do. Once you create an E17 theme, it should > be > > > one for everything, you cannot have to create a theme for every library > > > used. No other DE / VM has such a behaviour. For example, in Gnome you > > > customize everything by creating a GTK theme, same in KDE. A user cannot > be > > > left with no choice than creating a single E17 theme and let the others > > > applications look weird and different from the Others. This is rally > really > > > bad for any user and it also gives the users a really bad impression of > the > > > entire Enlightenment. I think we should find a way to unify everything > in a > > > single basic theme that has to be created, Sthithaprajna's way may be one > > > but tehre may be other ways too. > > > > > > Just please do not understimate this problem, because it is a problem > and it > > > a very huge one too. > > > > > > > This is fine for GTK and KDE as they don't have 3 separate toolkits > > behind them. Enlightenment has the E17 widgets which theme the window > > manager, Ewl and Etk as toolkits. All three of these work in a differing > > fashion and don't depend on each other. > > > > So, are we going to suddenly require that you have Ewl or Etk installed > > to use E17 or have E17 installed to use Ewl? That doesn't make much > > sense as they're independent. > > > > Until the window manager moves over to a specific widget toolkit we're > > going to have duplication in our theming. > > as will you as long as u have 2 widget sets. > > fact: 1 gtk theme does NOt cover metacity - same with qt - does not cover > kwin. > they are different. fact is that e doesnt know about ewl or etk. it doesn't > try > and do anything. nothing technically stops a single .edj theme shipping > everything, but your gtk and qt apps will still look different too - so are > we > now to also somehow try and theme gtk and qt from the same sources? we aren't > even trying to solve this problem. > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >
Would just like to +1 to the fact that ETK + EWL + E all have different themes and require extra work from the theme-creator, I certainly believe its a blocker for many people' adoption of e. -- Zachary Goldberg Computer Science & Engineering Electrical Captain of Penn Electric Race Team School of Engineering at the University of Pennsylvania ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
