I'm not saying having a CMS will suddenly bring people to write. That's a separate problem. I think it will not BLOCK people from writing. There's a difference. There are various avenues we can pursue to attract writers. Bounties, request for articles on the front page, etc can easily attract writers.
Also, we need to have a strict no drinking and writing policy. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Toma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While drunk at the moment (yet again) i think i would contribute to > any user controlled content as would a lot of people. (while not drunk > of course.) People semi-excited about the project would like to show > their support too. And thats the great thing about OSS I believe that > the community gets a say no matter what they do FOR the community! > Maybe its a dream, but its what i hope for. > Toma. > > On 8/3/08, dan sinclair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We've tried this about 3 times. Someone comes along and says if we >> have a CMS non-technical people will write articles. We implement a >> CMS. No-one writes articles. We drop the CMS. >> >> If you want to write news releases put them on blogs. Or write a news >> blurb for the front page. If longer articles are put into the wiki >> other people can fix the formatting and the wiki syntax later. >> >> dan >> >> >> On 2-Aug-08, at 1:36 PM, Sthithaprajna Garapaty wrote: >> >>> All good points, and I definitely agree that having a flat access >>> structure is very nice. >>> Perhaps we can keep it even if we use a CMS? Worth looking into. >>> >>> But, here are some arguments FOR a CMS: >>> >>> 1. We except articles to be written not by devs, but by users. I.E. >>> People who are not technical enough to fiddle with CVS, or even HTML. >>> They are good at writing and they can use a word processor. We >>> shouldn't create a barrier of entry for these people. >>> >>> 2. It automatically provides all the things a website needs. Many of >>> which are lacking in the current site. >>> For example: Search, RSS feeds for posts, flexible templates & styles, >>> wysiwyg editors & previews, taxonomy. >>> Additionally a few CMSes also provide modules for integrating our >>> other systems (wiki, bugs, etc) into the site. >>> >>> 3. Module support. Most big CMSes have support for modules. This >>> means, they have a large library of 3rd party modules already, and its >>> relatively easy to whip up our own. >>> This means we can integrate all our other systems into the main e.org >>> website. We could put the latest wiki articles on the front page, or >>> the highest rated themes from exchange, or the latest CVS commits. >>> Of course, we could write all of these things ourselves and stick 'em >>> into CVS, but having a nice module api definitely helps speed up >>> development. And some of these modules already exist. >>> >>> As far as the wiki being the place for articles, it definitely is the >>> place for how-tos and tutorials, but its no place for news articles, >>> articles on new features (wikis have a very poor sense of time) and >>> articles that just show off EFL & E. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:47 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:18:23 -0500 "Nathan Ingersoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > >>>> babbled: >>>> >>>> i agree here. i like our fairly flat (and lax) access structure. if >>>> we trust >>>> you to go writing bits of e.org's website - we trust you to write >>>> code - if >>>> that is your skill, or to just know to keep your hands off what you >>>> aren't good >>>> at. people make mistakes and if someone who was given access in >>>> order to do www >>>> goes and starts screwing with code so it breaks - a few reprimands >>>> on the >>>> mailing lists should cure that really fast, and if it doesn't - >>>> access to cvs >>>> can be removed (and will be) as if we can't trust them - why keep >>>> access to www? >>>> >>>> i like our own and flat trust structure. it's simple. it works as >>>> we are not a >>>> massive organisation. it allows or fluid movement and help wherever >>>> it is >>>> needed quickly. it shows we have faith in our fellow humans :) >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> so eventually went back to an old original method. www lives in >>>>>> cvs - u >>>>>> want to work on it, u get cvs access. committing means it auto- >>>>>> updates. if >>>>>> u need to test the php locally setting up a local apache and mod- >>>>>> php, allow >>>>>> symlinks outside of the www doc dir to point to your homedir's >>>>>> cvs checkout >>>>>> of the www site, worsk just fine. it's simple and works. the php >>>>>> is also >>>>>> very simple. the main www site is meant to be simple and >>>>>> relatively static >>>>>> - the wiki, and other sites (trac, bugzilla etc.) are where the >>>>>> dynamic >>>>>> stuff happens... >>>>> >>>>> There is another advantage to keeping the site in CVS: you avoid >>>>> segmenting the community into artificial sub-communities, or >>>>> trying to >>>>> place technical barriers around social structures. There is a flat >>>>> hierarchy of trust, either you've earned it enough to get access or >>>>> you haven't. 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