from what I've seen in almost every other project, the ChangeLog is
being used a SVC log mirror. It's the NEWS file that actually reflects
meaningful changes between versions, not the ChangeLog.

On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 22:16 +0100, Vincent Torri wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Andrew Williams wrote:
> 
> > You can of course have both.
> > Generate a ChangeLog file from the subversion logs and have a subversion 
> > hook 
> > update this everytime a change is made...
> > Would that keep everyone happy?
> 
> not really (for me). The svn log would pollute the ChangeLog file with 
> useless commits like a warning fix. Do that with eet (which is tiny...), 
> and you'll see what I mean.
> 
> Seriously, when an important commit must be noted in the ChangeLog (and 
> it should not happen a lot when the lib is released), it takes really no 
> time for the committer to use moap to update the ChangeLog file. I can't 
> understand why using a new tool is so disturbing for some people, and why 
> they are reluctant to use such new tool, especially when the commands are 
> so simple.
> 
> Also I'm for using the right tool for the right task. svn log is not the 
> right tool, imho.
> 
> Vincent
> 
> > On 30 Jan 2009, at 19:23, Vincent Torri wrote:
> >
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I really dislike ChangeLog files, they predate any source control
> >>> version. Now CVS/SVN/Git/Whatever nicely replaces that. So generating
> >>> it automatically is the way to go.
> >> 
> >> of course I disagree. Mainly because of an experience i had with
> >> autotools: for the EFL, I had to check if I didn't use macros that were
> >> too recent, or on the contrary if they were old enough to replace them by
> >> newer ones. If I had to look at all the svn logs, i doubt that i would
> >> have finished that work today (there are a lot of macro / features in
> >> autoconf, automake and libtool).
> >> 
> >> On the contrary, I just opened the ChangeLog files, did a search in it,
> >> and it was quite fast for me to find the informations.
> >> 
> >> That's why I think that, if it helped me, a changeLog can help other
> >> people. Note that I agree with raster's position here: noting in a
> >> ChangeLog only the most important changes. For example, even if I had
> >> committed in eet repo (only formatting and autotools stuff, iirc), i
> >> didn't modified the ChangeLog (Well, actually, i added one entry, to
> >> mention that the compilation can be done with Visual Studio). So the
> >> ChangeLog does not grows too much and has only important cahnges in it.
> >> 
> >> That's my opinion as a user of a tool. And i think that there are a lot of
> >> users who don't know how to use cvs, svn or git and are quite happy to
> >> have some ChangeLog files.
> >> 
> >> Vincent
> >> 
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