On Wed, 1 Apr 2009 12:59:54 -0300
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Viktor Kojouharov
> <vkojouha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-04-01 at 14:22 +0400, Sergey Semernin wrote:
> >> Hello, Dave!
> >>
> >> I see you importing 'places' into efm2.
> >> I'm starting work on efm2 too, because i have plans for E17 use and
> >> interesting first a robust, usable file manager.
> >> I can help you. What tasks are remaining exactly?
> >>
> >> In my view there are several major improvements: removable devices
> >> mount with correct fstab processing (so devices can be mounting
> >> properly when fstab corresponding fstab records exists); grid
> >> representation in fileman window with name, type, size, access
> >> rights, etc.; toolbar in file manager window with most using
> >> operations.
> >>
> >> What about background/color set GUI, rename in place, progress
> >> indication?
> > We should take the in-place to a whole new level, and remove as many
> > dialogs as we can. The only dialog that should stay is the
> > properties one, since it is quite big. Every other dialog should go
> > as an overlay to the e_fm window that spawned it.
> 
> problem: window can be too small.
> 
> problem specifically to rename in place: text can grow outside the
> viewport and it will be unusable. elementary suffers from that a lot,
> needs to be solved somehow generically.

Make the entry that shows up be scrollable.  Doesn't need a scrollbar,
just scroll it with the cursor.  Granted this adds some complexity, but
with edje_entry it might not be too hard.

> 
> 
> > Some type of status overlay that displays useful info on the
> > selected item (or is hidden if nothing is selected) would also be
> > nice.
> 
> yes, I'd say like a statusbar, but nicely overlayed.

Anyone use evidence before?  If not take a look at old screenshots.
That had the sexiest info popup I've ever seen :)

> 
> 
> > the rest just need love and bug cleaning :)
> >
> >
> > btw, what do you guys think if these ideas:
> >
> > Having a gadcon on the left/right side to display some info, like a
> > directory tree or a list of favourites?
> 
> isn't it your drawer stuff?!

Also allow a way to disable this hideous convention.  I'd much
rather just have a pull down on the toolbar that I can pick from
instead of something soaking up screen real estate.  Think of the
poor individuals on 320x320 touchscreens :)

> 
> 
> > Using the .gtk-bookmarks instead of the current favourites (if the
> > first supports things other than directories)
> 
> I'm pro it, at least firefox and other apps would use it. However kde
> apps do not share the same thing, so maybe have an option to try/use
> both, as some users will just not use gtk apps.

Or we could potentially work with the KDE team, as they've expressed
their distaste for some of the current specs as well, to generate a
proper standard and f*** Gnome? Once Gnome no longer inter-operates with
anything, maybe they'll get the point that they can't control the Linux
desktop :)

> 
> 
> > Using a toolbar to open different locations within the same e_fm
> > window?
> 
> that's efm_nav, no?

I'm thinking he meant more of a paned typed thing where you can have
multiple views all in a single window.  Don't think this will be making
it into E17 if that's the case.

> 
> 


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