Hello All,
  I have been talking to Raster and Gustavo on a side thread and have gotten 
the e site running on my personal server.  I will be reviewing the wish list / 
suggestion items from the thread, as well as the items Gustavo mentions below 
and will begin work in the next day or two.   Please feel free to email me 
directly if there are specific items that others feel are important to realize. 
 I do not wish to get in the middle of the discussion being a new egg and all 
;-), so please try to keep the list to something manageable and specific so 
that I can hit the mark on what improvements everyone would like to see.

You can review my dev area at: http://e-www.thecharbneaus.com/p.php?p=index&l=en

I’ve pasted Gustavo’s note here so you don’t have to dig:

>>   2. rework content,  from easiest to complicated (convoluted). The
>> overall rule is make the text look as professional as possible, short
>> and direct. Let's avoid explaining/justify/clarify too much. Our rules
>> and technical decisions are that, period.   Technical details goes to
>> trac/wiki, if not there already. Link there whenever appropriated,
>> edit wiki to match the removed/moved information.
>> 
>>       2.1. Contribute (see our mail discussion, lots of stuff should
>> be linked or go to wiki, part of that is there already, like coding
>> style...)
>>       2.2. Support (good, but would use some text simplification to
>> make it shorter and more direct)
>>       2.3. About (good, but if could be simplified and more direct,
>> then awesome -- we could use a link to youtube/vimeo with a showcase
>> of E17 and Elementary there, maybe 2 with different themes)
>>       2.4. Documentation (I'd like to remove it in the long go, but
>> so far we must integrate the EFL docs at the end with the one at the
>> top)
>>       2.5. Download keep just the packages, move the debian deps to
>> wiki.   The packages list needs confirmation of their validity, Gentoo
>> is okay (I'm an user). Ask e-users and #e to see if the references
>> there are valid. (Ubuntu is definitely broken, from 2005 and still
>> refers to CVS! Ask Lutin for his packages)
>>       2.6. Contact (rework to integrate better with devmap, we'll
>> move it as a sub-page from Contribute and Support)
>> 
>>   3. Layout changes. First, Raster's goal: keep a flat page, with
>> easily accessible content, more important first. Problem is that
>> abusing 3 column layout is no go for most people setup, remembering
>> that lots of people run 1024x768 at 96dpi, you end with fairly thin
>> columns.  This should be easier after step #2.



Thanks,
Jess


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jesse Charbneau <j...@thecharbneaus.com>
> Date: November 10, 2010 8:10:18 PM EST
> To: Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi>
> Cc: Jesse Charbneau <j...@thecharbneaus.com>, Carsten Haitzler 
> <ras...@rasterman.com>, Luis Felipe Strano Moraes <lfel...@profusion.mobi>
> Subject: Re: help with web site
> 
> Hey Gustavo,
> 
> Item 1 is complete and the site now works as expected: 
> http://e-www.thecharbneaus.com/p.php 
> 
> 
> On the below items, I’ll collate everything below and from the mailing list 
> into something concise for everyone to review.  
> 
> Will try and have that to you over the weekend and will begin with some of 
> the more obvious wish list items.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Jess
> 
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Jesse Charbneau
>> <j...@thecharbneaus.com> wrote:
>>> Ok.
>>> 
>>> Gustavo,
>>> Please let me know what needs to be done and I will get started this 
>>> weekend.
>> 
>> Hi Jesse,
>> 
>> Sorry taking so long to reply, I'm doing some work stuff as I need to
>> travel to Korea to meet our dear Raster in person... That also mean
>> I'll be changing to Korean time zone from Saturday to the next Friday.
>> The weekends I'll be traveling, so don't wait for my replies on those
>> dates. When I'm back i'll try to help with actual code as well as
>> talking to our designers about visual changes.
>> 
>> So, let's try to agree on a schedule to be done by the end of Friday
>> 19th, then we reevaluate. I'd like to see done by then:
>>   1. proper clone site (just fix the issues you found with your setup
> 
>>   2. rework content,  from easiest to complicated (convoluted). The
>> overall rule is make the text look as professional as possible, short
>> and direct. Let's avoid explaining/justify/clarify too much. Our rules
>> and technical decisions are that, period.   Technical details goes to
>> trac/wiki, if not there already. Link there whenever appropriated,
>> edit wiki to match the removed/moved information.
>> 
>>       2.1. Contribute (see our mail discussion, lots of stuff should
>> be linked or go to wiki, part of that is there already, like coding
>> style...)
>>       2.2. Support (good, but would use some text simplification to
>> make it shorter and more direct)
>>       2.3. About (good, but if could be simplified and more direct,
>> then awesome -- we could use a link to youtube/vimeo with a showcase
>> of E17 and Elementary there, maybe 2 with different themes)
>>       2.4. Documentation (I'd like to remove it in the long go, but
>> so far we must integrate the EFL docs at the end with the one at the
>> top)
>>       2.5. Download keep just the packages, move the debian deps to
>> wiki.   The packages list needs confirmation of their validity, Gentoo
>> is okay (I'm an user). Ask e-users and #e to see if the references
>> there are valid. (Ubuntu is definitely broken, from 2005 and still
>> refers to CVS! Ask Lutin for his packages)
>>       2.6. Contact (rework to integrate better with devmap, we'll
>> move it as a sub-page from Contribute and Support)
>> 
>>   3. Layout changes. First, Raster's goal: keep a flat page, with
>> easily accessible content, more important first. Problem is that
>> abusing 3 column layout is no go for most people setup, remembering
>> that lots of people run 1024x768 at 96dpi, you end with fairly thin
>> columns.  This should be easier after step #2.
>> 
>> 
>> As you can see I'm not covering any graphics changes. From 22th and on
>> I'll be at my office again and I'll talk to a designer. She already
>> suggested some unification ideas (not radical changes), like to agree
>> on one of the visual separation (we have about 3: blank spaces in
>> home/about; left-border in news; shadow boxes in
>> download/support/contribute/docs).   Particularly we liked blank
>> spaces as it makes the visual less polluted, but when we approach that
>> level we'll provide some mockups to choose from -- so no point in
>> changing these now.
>> 
>> I'm CC'ing lfelipe, he works with me and is always helpful with
>> infrastructure and could help with reading/reviewing your work. He
>> also sits in front of our designer, so although we'll do the graphics
>> later, you may ask him to forward some questions to her.
>> 
>> Last but not least, keep #edevelop (IRC) and e-devel (mail) informed,
>> so you keep people motivated in this topic. Of course, be aware of
>> flames or endless redoing your work to match everyones expectations.
>> 
>> BR,
>> 
>> -- 
>> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
>> http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
>> --------------------------------------
>> MSN: barbi...@gmail.com
>> Skype: gsbarbieri
>> Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202
> 

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