On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:29:39 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo <seojuyu...@gmail.com> said:
> > i see confusion and > > complaints every single day because of this push to use edje as the "way to > > do a gui layout" that is better done using ju7st basic boxes, tables etc. > > etc. inline in the code. > > Now we have GRID as well :) > And I think "Do not use edje as a GUI layout (or use it less)" is not > discussed enough so far. well form what i've seen is the case people have been told that this is the way to do things and that every efl app must have an edj file for its ui etc. which is entirely wrong. it was never meant to be this way and edje is too primitive to do all of this. it's a lower level tool. :) > We've been using edje as a GUI layout heavily. > It's time to change things. > > But I still prefer edje :) edje has advantages for certain things. its useful. BUT... it shouldn't be pushed as the "way to do ui layout". people complain efl is too complex .. and the reason they do is BECAUSE of this. introduce complexity WHEN you need it, not just because it's there :) i'm not saying "don't document it". i'm trying to say "don't lead people to think that this is the way to do things normally". > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ) > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:14:55 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Atton Jonathan <jonathan.at...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > Amnell has made a general EFL first step documentation in french, maybe > >> > it could help you. http://louis-du-verdier.developpez.com/efl/debuter/ > >> > > >> > If I can have 1 request about the documentation: explain to the > >> > developpers how to use edje external + elm instead of show them how to > >> > use elm in the c-code. I think it is very important if we want to show > >> > something different from QT/GTK. > >> > I think this tutorial is a good and short demo > >> > : http://watchwolf.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=17&lang=en > >> > >> Of course. We'll use elm_layout to place things as much as possible. > >> After all, we've wrote the external part to do just that! ;-) > > > > hooray. and complicate app development massively in the process. edje is > > there for when u want to get advanced, NOT for just writing your > > regular-joe apps. the app dev now needs to have a comp[ile setup for an edc > > file, install it, find it and load it all at runtime as well as have to > > hunt down a part name, find it and then finally do everything they could > > have done with 1 line of code (that now became multiple lines just to use > > an external edje file). they also now need to wrestle with a whole new > > language, syntax, file, set of keys, properties and so on that they don't > > know just to get a very simple thing done. > > > > you are doing nobody a favor by pushing this agenda. i see confusion and > > complaints every single day because of this push to use edje as the "way to > > do a gui layout" that is better done using ju7st basic boxes, tables etc. > > etc. inline in the code. > > > > use edje WHERE APPROPRIATE. not WHENEVER YOU CAN. > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content > > authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image > > Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EditLive Enterprise is the world's most technically advanced content authoring tool. Experience the power of Track Changes, Inline Image Editing and ensure content is compliant with Accessibility Checking. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ephox-dev2dev _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
