* Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbi...@profusion.mobi> [2011-11-22 17:27:54 -0200]:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 14:25:51 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> said: > > > >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 1:35 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com > >> <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > >> >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 9:57 AM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com > >> >> <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Enlightenment SVN > >> >>> <no-re...@enlightenment.org> wrote: > >> >>>> Log: > >> >>>> THEMES/detorious: try a simpler pager. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Couple of people reported that they found the pager a bit strange, I > >> >>>> also felt the same, then I'm trying a new one that is more clean in > >> >>>> the design. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Pager is usually quite small and holds windows, possibly lots of them > >> >>>> (xterms side by side), in this case all those details were cluttering > >> >>>> the results. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Replaced the sunken border with a single line at left and right, the > >> >>>> focused background is a plain rectangle with the focused color. This > >> >>>> should look fine in both inset and plain styles. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Windows have no detail. Unfocused are semi-transparent, focused is > >> >>>> opaque. Just focused window have icon, and the icon should be at > >> >>>> least > >> >>>> 16x16. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> If you dislike it, feel free to revert. > >> >>>> > >> >>> the desk image needs a top and/or bottom separator when having more > >> >>> than one row or when used in pager popup, otherwise I'm ok it. In > >> >>> pager popup I'm missing the icons for orientation, imo there should > >> >> > >> >> check r65132. See if it's any better. > >> >> > >> > yup, looks good now. somewhere the clipping of windows to desk got lost > >> > though > >> > >> fixed in r65133. thanks > > > > do people like the new pager look? > > still not 100% satisfied, I'm out of ideas WRT to it, but so far my > impression is that it is TOO COMPLEX and needs simplifying. See below. > > > it looks really weird. the fading ot white > > on corners, and the window "preview poxes" in the pager just look odd - they > > pretend to be inset but they also hast a shadow. > > someone just changed it and it's bit better, but now the selected > window blue is much similar to the selected background blue. Maybe > make it gray again? Glima, you were the one that changed selected > window to blue, could we revert it to dark gray? (the unselected > windows are now lighter) It was not me who changed, I think it was jeffdameth. No big business to me this difference (or lack of) between the blues, but if it bothers you... > > > > the e logo change is fine. > > :-) I'm using it in Brazilian E FB page as well. > > > > battery is ok i guess, though if u want it like that, maybe battery should > > be > > vertical so it uses less horizontal space? or battery gadget needs to > > appropriately rotate battery (use different edje groups maybe) based on > > shelf > > size (if very thin then make it horizontal like now but fill the shelf > > height)? > > the default looks were all fitting into a square, so this is not coming out > > too > > well i think. what do people think? > > the reasoning behind horizontal battery is that it's on an horizontal > shelf, so you have more empty space around it in vertical area, that > is more constrained. I can ask marina to draw new version (actually > just the charging icon needs to keep unrotated), but IMO horizontal is > visually better as it feels less cluttered. > > > > i'm thinking maybe battery should be inset > > like the inset look of the pager/ibar etc. > > I have a strong dislike for inset. It adds too much visual noise to > the shelf, that is already usually small. Right now I'm okay with it > just for the systray, because we need it for a solid background due > xwindow reparenting. > > if you have a shelf without insets it looks way cleaner, see the > attached screenshot. Even if you make all status (battery, connman, > bluetooth, mixer) share the same inset box, you can see from ibar it's > not as clean. > > problem with visual noise is that it becomes tiring more easily. > > > > > > anyway - i'm willing work on detorious unless people objects - does anyone > > object with me trying to make these look better? > > not at all, welcome to detorious bandwagon :-) > > My only remark is "keep things simple" and avoid visual noise. That > was what made me run from blingbling and black&white. I always look at > everything's visual of detorious to think how simple can be > beautiful... OTOH I look at detorious scrollbars and toolbars and hate > them. > > all in all avoid spurious noise and effects, if we want to showcase > EFL features it's better to write a demo ;-) > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -------------------------------------- > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure > contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, > security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this > data and makes sense of it. IT sense. 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