On 09/12/11 10:28, Vincent Torri wrote:
> some people are considering themselves as coders only and dont want to
> do slave and bothering stuff like filling correctly README or NEWS or
> ChangeLog, or doing administrative tasks. They prefer others doing
> that job because  they have a high opinion of what they do.
> 
> Some other people try to take time to make that project a serious one,
> by taking some time : correctly filling the files, making advertising
> on other sites, creating an association and a paypal account, etc...
> 

I'm sorry if I offended you in any way. If I have, you can be sure it
was not intentional as I very much appreciate your efforts in many
fields regarding EFL, and I'm usually your number one supporter.

I believe this email does not follow the regular interaction you, the
Vincent I know and appreciate, and I usually have.. Like I said in IRC
after you left, I think you and your organization methods, emails, and
etc. have done great service to this project, and I don't know where we
would have been without you. Your handling of the all important
administrative sides of the project, like creating an association,
paypal account, and making the project correct and well structured, are
admirable to say the least.

I believe my past behaviour shows my commitment to making EFL more
organized or serious as you have put it. I have done a lot of
administrative work on trac, I talk to people all the time about commit
messages, Changelogs, SCMs, coding conventions, work methods, and
generally every administrative task I can think benefits the project. I
make sure to always update the Chanegelog, I never commit code without
doxygen, including @since and @deprecated tags.

The only place where I'm at fault is the NEWS file, not because I have
ill-intentions, or I'm just being lazy, but because I don't completely
sure about what's needed to be done. I suggest having an open discussion
about it (and we have, in another thread) so it'll be decided, and when
it'll be decided I'll happily and promptly conform.

Let's discuss it in the appropriate thread and decide what we think
needs to be done, after that we'll be decided, we'll join forces and
enforce it together.

I hope we share the same views,
Tom.

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