On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Bruno Dilly <bdi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Bruno Dilly <bdi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: >>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 3:47 PM, ChunEon Park <her...@naver.com> wrote: >>>>>> I think both are no problems if it has a documentation. >>>>>> But your patch may break applications already released. >>>>>> It will be better to apply your patch when major version is changed. >>>>> >>>>> As I say, current behaviour is undefined. If you go out of an >>>>> animation (defined in the edj itself) in any state (hidden, moved, >>>>> resized, whatever), it will stay in that state. But this is completly >>>>> random and not defined (as in, depend on an external file). Now I do >>>>> like the raster proposal with an orphaned flag as it is the only sane >>>>> way to detect any leak. Relying on an undefined visual artefact would >>>>> not help at all. >>>> >>>> It isn't documented. But it's defined, IMHO, since you can predict it. >>>> As you said, in an animation it will keep the state, if it was >>>> visible, it will stay visible. >>>> So applications can be considering a unswallowed object will be >>>> visible, since it was visible, and now it will be hidden. >>> >>> No, as it is defined in the theme, it doesn't depend on the >>> application. If you change the theme, the animation, anything in the >>> .edj, it will change the behaviour in the application itself. It's >>> full of race condition. There is no sane way to expect any kind of >>> behaviour in the app. It is definitivly an undefined behaviour, as >>> their is no way you could know the state of the object without >>> requesting it after the unswallow. >> >> OK, my concept of application is code and theme. >> Anyway, a simple case is to add an rectangle to a swallow in a layout. >> I've attached a quick example. As you can see, no luck required. After >> 3 seconds the rectangle is unswallowed and displayed at 0,0. > > Ok, I see the difference. From my point of view, the application > should never trust an edj file. So if I can break your "consistent" > behaviour by just touching the edc file, then their is a bug in the > application from my point of view. In your example. I just need to set > visible: 0, or rel1.relative: 0 0; and rel2.relative: 0 0; to break > your app. So you are just lucky that no one touched your edc file.
Ok, but don't you trust the edj file will have a swallow with name "X" ? It's easy to break an application changing the edj if you want to do so. > > >From my point of view, an edj is a black box that can do anything. > There is no such thing like when I unswallow all my theme will always > resize the object and make them properly visible. That's why I see > this as an undefined behaviour. > -- > Cedric BAIL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Bruno Dilly Senior Developer ProFUSION embedded systems http://profusion.mobi ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure costs. Try it free! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Citrix-VDIinabox _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
