Hi Raster, Please check my study at http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Evas_Async_And_E_Comp Quite long, but it was required to get me to understand what is happening.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri < [email protected]> wrote: > I'll reply later, but I guess we are creating a confusion on what could be > the problem and it should be much simpler than what you think. > > Software -X11 used by popups/shelves shouldn't matter as they go to X > before coming to the compositor... Unless ther is a shortcut I don't know. > And we just XShmPutImage on the main thread. So should be fine. > > > On Tuesday, January 8, 2013, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >> On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 00:25:55 -0200 Ulisses Furquim <[email protected]> >> said: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected] >> > >> > wrote: >> > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 23:13:13 -0200 Ulisses Furquim < >> [email protected]> >> > > said: >> > > >> > >> Hi raster, >> > >> >> > >> On Monday, January 7, 2013, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> > >> >> > >> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 18:36:32 -0200 Ulisses Furquim >> > >> > <[email protected]<javascript:;>> said: >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi Raster, >> > >> > > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Carsten Haitzler >> > >> > > <[email protected]<javascript:;> >> > >> > > >> > >> > > wrote: >> > >> > > > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 11:21:28 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> > >> > > > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> said: >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Carsten Haitzler >> > >> > > >> <[email protected] <javascript:;>>wrote: >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:42:13 -0200 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> > >> > > >> > <[email protected] <javascript:;>> said: >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > ooh also.. with software comp.. rememebr that the async >> renderer >> > >> > > >> > is >> > >> > still >> > >> > > >> > busy >> > >> > > >> > rendering in the bg.. THEN sw comp in the mainloop is >> grabbing >> > >> > pixels to >> > >> > > >> > ximages WHILE sw evas is rendering async.. THEN it uses >> those >> > >> > ximages - >> > >> > > >> > their >> > >> > > >> > pixel data is SET to be theimage pixel data, and then an >> sync sw >> > >> > render >> > >> > > >> > uses >> > >> > > >> > that pixel data we grabbed async to the rendering of it >> (that used >> > >> > to be >> > >> > > >> > sync) :) if its sw comp - but i've seen sync issues with gl >> comp >> > >> > > >> > and content >> > >> > > >> > containing incorrect pixels. :) >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> I couldn't understand what you mean. Seems you're getting >> some ideas >> > >> > on >> > >> > > >> where is the problem, then: >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> 1 - explain that in a more understandable way :-P >> > >> > > >> 2 - look into comp code to see where the problems could be. >> You >> > >> > wrote it, >> > >> > > >> then you know that quite well. >> > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> We can help you with #2 if you do #1 and let us know where to >> to pin >> > >> > point. >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > comp can sync its canvas. it can ensure it is no longer >> rendering >> > >> > before it >> > >> > > > changed the image data ptrs... >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > BUT... it cant sync the canvases in the borders, or the menus, >> or the >> > >> > > > background or the popups. these are separate windows and >> canvases. >> > >> > > > literally e is doing x(shm)getimage() the pixels from x11 when >> > >> > > > updates happen. since async rendering may be rendering a NEW >> frame >> > >> > > > WHILE it is doing a getimage for the old one (the border >> canvas is >> > >> > > > rendering async >> > we can.. but we can't break ecore-evas/elm etc. "by default" to require >> any >> apps/code to adapt like this. it has to be voluntary opt-in to go async. >> :/ >> >> > Or not? :-) >> > >> > -- Ulisses >> > >> > > that means... in real life, we can't turn async on by default... it >> has to >> > > be explicitly requested :/ (at the ecore-evas and even elementary >> level). >> > > otherwise we break api/abi basically (well behaviour). >> > > >> > > i have also been thinking on this while asleep.. or pretending to >> be... we >> > > have another bug in comp that is implicit due to it not forcibly >> ordering >> > > the comp canvas draw to be AFTER all idle enterers (it should use an >> idler >> > > and manual rendering that it then deletes after first idler spin - >> but this >> > > won't fix out current issue anyway - also we have a shape rect issue >> too >> > > anyway since shape rects are set by ecore-evas's idle enterer but the >> > > e_border idle enterer i think executes before , merging shape rects >> from >> > > the frame canvas... anyway my brain is running around in circles with >> all >> > > the implicit dependencies of who renders first and produces what >> results >> > > and then who depends on them for another stage etc.). >> > > >> > > -- >> > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" >> -------------- >> > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Ulisses Furquim >> > ProFUSION embedded systems >> > http://profusion.mobi >> > Mobile: +55 19 9250 0942 >> > Skype: ulissesffs >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Master SQL Server Development, Administration, T-SQL, SSAS, SSIS, SSRS >> > and more. 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