On 16/05/13 17:17, Chris Michael wrote:
> On 16/05/13 16:58, Tom Hacohen wrote:
>> On 16/05/13 16:31, Rafael Antognolli wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Christopher Michael
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 16/05/13 14:43, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Tom Hacohen
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On 16/05/13 14:24, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16/05/13 14:19, Tom Hacohen wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 16/05/13 14:17, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 16/05/13 14:14, Tom Hacohen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 16/05/13 14:06, Christopher Michael wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/05/13 14:06, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry, but what are those formatting changes ??
>>>>>>>>>>> Removing the parens that were there.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> …
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see your commits,
>>>>>>>>>>>> clang yells loud about this, many people are moving from gcc to
>>>>>>>>>>>> clang,
>>>>>>>>>>>> your code will keep yelling so, not really an issue for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Really could care less what clang says to be honest :) They
>>>>>>>>>>> are ?? who
>>>>>>>>>>> ?? Distros still ship with gcc as the default compiler
>>>>>>>>>>> afaik....Well, it
>>>>>>>>>>> does not yell here so not really an issue for me either ;)
>>>>>>>>>> To be fair, that (()) clutter is ugly
>>>>>>> Ugly ?? Have you ever looked inside Elementary code ?? Now THAT's
>>>>>>> ugly ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      and should be removed even if
>>>>>>>>>> clang doesn't complain. Why do you care so much for it anyway?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It helps me keep my sanity when dealing with unruley if blocks
>>>>>>>>> and truth
>>>>>>>>> tests. Well, one man's ugly is another man's beauty I suppose ;)
>>>>>>>> How does it help you? I'm genuinely interested.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Tom.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Order of precedence and readability mainly.
>>>>>> Double parenthesis don't change the order of precedence. It's fine
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> required by our conventions) if you had an AND or OR there, but since
>>>>>> you don't have those, it just looks weird.
>>>>>>
>>>>> +1.
>>>>> if ((ee->alpha == alpha)) return;
>>>>> ((xxxx === aaa)) looks weird to me.
>>>> Yea, that looks weird to me too '===' ?? ;)
>>>>
>>>>> It works but I am eager to clean this up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, Jeremy could split the formatting fix commit and adding
>>>>> missing NULL commit.
>>>>> I think that was a point of devilhorns' mail.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, that was one point, sure....but my main point was...
>>>> Don't change the formatting that was previously there please ;)
>>> Actually, wouldn't it be better if we try to follow EFL formatting
>>> inside the engine code?
>>>
>>> Of course I also do several mistakes regarding that formatting, but
>>> IMHO when this kind of discussion appears, we should just stick to the
>>> EFL formatting itself.
>> We should stick to the formatting even before this kind of discussions
>> appear.
>
> Yup
>>   Our coding guidelines don't really say anything regarding over
>> resynthesizing,
>
> Exactly. It don't say anything about it. However, it does say:
>
> "Our golden rule of coding - *FOLLOW THE CODING STYLE ALREADY THERE*.
> That means that if you work on code that already exists, keep to the
> spacing, indenting, variable and function naming style, etc. that
> already exists."
>
> "short if (cond) action are fine as single line;
> use parenthesis for every clause or math;"
>
> It also says:
>
> "Use parenthesis to make clear what you want, even if the operator
> precedence is obvious to you. "
>
> So yes, our standard does not say anything about the extra parens.
>
>> but I'm quite certain, that if it had anything, it would
>> have been a clear "DO NOT DO". Especially in this kind of case where it
>> doesn't and will never make any sense.
>
> Is that because you think it's "ugly" ?? Well, it makes sense to
> me...clearly defining the the condition.
>
> I don't understand why you are making such a big deal out of an extra
> pair of parens (that do not hurt or do anything, except maybe making
> readability better) in code that you don't maintain (and I doubt will
> ever even read)....
>

Because:
1. Compiling without warnings helps assuring our users that the software 
we produce is of high quality (yes, clang warnings count).
2. I don't want this ugly epidemic to spread. :)
3. I don't see you do the same in other pieces of code you write.

And last, but not least: the guidelines about following the surrounding 
code are about adding code, not re-factoring.

--
Tom.



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