On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:29:17 +0100 Jérémy Zurcher <jer...@asynk.ch> said:
> you are so right Stephan > - these are not offical files, but they look like why does it matter? has this ever caused an actual problem? has a user ever been "confused"? the debian ones only caused a problem because of POLICY in debian. they kept having to patch them out of the src tree. they didn't ACTUALLY cause any problem. > - they are not used by mainteners (they do their job in their distro repo) > > they should go > maybe we could replace them with a list of urls like > > https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/enlightenment17 > http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/Enlightenment:/Factory/ > > On Thursday 05 December 2013 08:36, Stefan Schmidt wrote : > > Hello. > > > > On Thu, 2013-12-05 at 11:30, Simon wrote: > > > On 12/05/2013 10:22 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2013 12:43:31 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz > > > > <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > > >> this seems to have snuck in to all the repos while I was away, and I > > > >> strongly disagree with the premise based on previous decisions. > > > >> > > > >> if people remember, we previously removed debian/ directories from our > > > >> distribution directories for being too distro-specific. isn't adding > > > >> the arch-only pkgbuild stuff the exact same thing? > > > >> > > > >> I think if we're going to keep these, then it makes sense to allow ALL > > > >> packaging-related files, and not just cater to whatever distro is hot > > > >> at the time. > > > > there's a big difference. debian has a POLICY of "you are not allowed > > > > to have debian build stuff in a source tree". they continually complain > > > > that we had such stuff. > > > > > > > > we have had .spec files for much longer than even debian build stuff. > > > > there's enlightenment.spec right there. you've never complained. > > > > > > > > so leave it there. the removal of debian stuff is due to debian > > > > policies. > > > > > > > The .spec files should probably be removed based off the fact as far as > > > i know no one has been maintaining them, i don't think any of the major > > > rpm based distro's are using them, we also all use them sightly > > > differently. If someone is going to use them and keep them updated then > > > keep them otherwise they should probably go. > > > > I think this is the key point everybody looks away from. Non of the > > package maintainers use these things its only some dev that at some > > point thought it would be cool to have package for his current distro. > > > > As Simon just pointed he is not using the spec files for openSuSe. I > > bet Fedora is not using them either. The same would go for raster arch > > files. > > > > The key is distros are not using them only some devs here are. Its > > easy to see why they are not doing it, too. Packagers have access to > > distro infrastructure and not to the upstream project. They might be > > able to get commit access but not all projects are as easy with it > > as we are. You have a distro specific addition to an upstream package > > thus you are doing the work in the distro. Totally makes sense to me. > > > > My personal problem with packaging files in our repos are twofold a) > > it gives the impression they are the official files from the distro > > which they are not and b) they bitrot easily because only very few > > people use them. > > > > regards > > Stefan Schmidt > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > > Download it for free now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > --- Hell'O from Yverdoom > > Jérémy (jeyzu) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK > Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. > Download it for free now! > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. 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