I should add that people ought to actually thank both Carsten and William for 
being passionate about their views and speaking out in defense of those.

Carsten has done a truly remarkable job in leading this project from its 
infancy to its current state... If anyone thinks it's even remotely easy to 
lead a group to write gfx/event libs and a modular wm based on them, then I 
suggest they give it a shot. Failings and all, it's a tremendous accomplishment.

Many that were part of this 'project' worked hard as well, and often fought and 
argued.. sometimes heavily, but always with the passion to do greater things as 
they saw such.

And if that's what people like Mr. Thomson feel as well, then he too deserves 
thanks from those currently here.


---------- Original Message ----------

    Stephen Houston wrote: 

> No worries as just about everyone else has you ignored. Nobody cares. You 
> can play innocent here and try and get sympathy. As I said all you have to 
> do is apologize to several of us. Also, you are the furthest thing from 
> thick skinned. The evidence of this even being an issue is not coincidental 
> to your arrival.  Read all of our mailing list threads and all of our 
> correspondence with the community on IRC and other platforms... we've never 
> had an issue like this. Ergo, the only thing different here is you. Not us. 
> That should help identify the issue. 
> 

    Ummmm... that depends on what you consider "we've never had an issue 
like this before" to mean, and how far back you want to read mailing lists.

    Actually, from what I've seen of the project nowadays, I'd say that things 
seem 
to have improved considerably over what it used to be like.. say 8 - 18 yrs ago.


> > On Mon, May 15, 2017, 7:37 PM William L. Thomson Jr. <[email protected]> 
>> wrote: 
> 
> > On Tue, 16 May 2017 00:09:34 +0000 
> > Stephen Houston <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > 
> > > Simon you are just wrong here. You have no idea how he treated others 
> > > on IRC and other places before any of this happened. 
> > 
> > Stephen, you are the only person I have ever had to set an ignore flag 
> > in my IRC client ever. With over a decade and a half of IRC usage. 
> > I purposely avoid you because of your conduct. Yet it seems you go out 
> > of your way to comment in areas I am working. This thread is an example. 
> > 


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