Dear All, I think we have to get something straight here before running into unecessary disputes: First "Entrance" is a FREE software and when you refer to a GPL license, it states:
-------------------------------------------------------------------- This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. -------------------------------------------------------------------- which to some extent is the correct Philosophy (although some might argue that the software is not GPL and so on). You are not paying the developer to do this job and he's doing it out of kindness in his spare time. So you can't really bug/insult the developer in that respect when he's providing FREE software. If you're paying the guy milions of dollars, then you expect a certain decent result and support. Only when you're paying for a service, then you expect it to be good and can complain about it. :-) Secondly "Entrance", like "E17", is still in an experimental stage. Ibukun has already told us that beforehand. So you have been warned if you want to install it. If it doesn't work, you can't also blame him! It's ALPHA as he said! You might ask now, why is it available? Simple answer: It's meant ONLY for developers, people who have the time, expertise and knowledge to debug the whole thing. ALPHA means that it's not meant for everyday users to use. If you really want to help, go in CVS, download the whole source code, compile, run, test, debug and send patches to the core developer. Communicate in the developers mailing list when running into problems. That's how people can help. You can't help by just saying "I want to help". You have to do some homework on your own first by understanding the source code and knowing what you're dealing with. Find flaws, locate the buggy code then discuss!:-) For some people, Entrance actually worked pretty well, one example is Andrew Johnson (ajgenius _AT_ ajgenius.us) from GNOME art side. I was discussing with him a while ago on irc and he told me that he has successfully installed and tested "Entrance". I believe he's thinking of theming too! Anyway Ibukun wrote: > This means that if you can't get it to > work, or it blows up your hard drive in the process, you're on your own. > :) We should not take this too personnally. It's a way to tell you not to try out if you don't know what you're dealing with. So personnally, I don't go and try experimental software as I've a whole lot of Physics equations, simulations, and experimental work to deal with everyday. So I use gdm and E16 as I don't have the time to go and play around with Entrance and E17, and on top of that going to find bugs. :-) Hope this mail will be useful to find a common understanding and reaffirming the meaning of free software. With kind regards, Didier. --- PhD student Singapore Synchrotron Light Source (SSLS) 5 Research Link, Singapore 117603 Email: slsbdfc at nus dot edu dot sg \or\ didierbe at sps dot nus dot edu dot sg Website: http://ssls.nus.edu.sg ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by OSDN developer relations Here's your chance to show off your extensive product knowledge We want to know what you know. Tell us and you have a chance to win $100 http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?HRPT1X3RYQNC5V4MLNSV3E54 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users