On 04/17/2010 10:53 PM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:23:40 -0400 Christopher Michael<cpmicha...@comcast.net>
> said:
>
>> As is apparent here:
>>
>> http://home.comcast.net/~devilhorns/run_ff.png
>>
>> It works fine with current svn of e17&  efl (as of this writing). I
>> would try updating to the latest and greatest that you can...(ideally
>> from svn, but you have already stated that you don't want to do that) :)
>>
>> If the problem does persist for you, the only way we can really be of
>> help would be if you had a gdb backtrace of the crash (which would
>> require installed from svn and building with -g, etc, etc).
>
> well if he doesnt want to upgrade to svn and it's fixed.. there is NOTHING he
> can do. it's upgrade and have something that works or live with what he has.
> not much in between (well unless he wishes to patch his own code and rebuild -
> but i am assuming that is even harder tan upgrade , so ruling it out)
>
Of course...Just trying to toss some 'subtle' hints out there that svn 
would be the better way to go :)

dh

>> In case you feel brave one day ;) here is a link to getting backtraces :)
>> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Debugging
>>
>> devilhorns
>>
>> On 04/17/2010 10:09 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
>>>
>>> On 4/10/10 a: pacman -Syu :destabilized e17's run command dialog on my
>>> Arch Linux installation.
>>>
>>> Yes I know e17 is still under heavy development, so I can't
>>> expect it to be completely stable. But I thought I should bring this
>>> up even though I found a workaround that works for me.
>>>
>>> And I know this "could" be a distro specific problem... But I don't think
>>> so because:
>>>
>>> To quote from the Arch wiki:
>>>
>>> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux
>>>
>>> ->   Arch provides non-patched, vanilla software; packages are offered from
>>> ->   pure upstream sources, how the author originally intended it be
>>> ->   distributed. Patching only occurs in extremely rare cases, to prevent
>>> ->   severe breakage in the instance of version mismatches that may occur
>>> ->   within a rolling release model.
>>>
>>> However I am a multi-Linux/multi-boot kind of guy, who in each and
>>> every distro I install, heavily depends on their package management
>>> system to keep me out of dependency hel^Hck... ;-7
>>>
>>> And e17 is definitely one "package" that I wouldn't even attempt to
>>> install by hand.
>>>
>>> But of all my currently installed distros, Arch is the one that seems
>>> most likely to install an unadulterated upstream package, rather than a
>>> distro specific {modified} version.
>>>
>>> Thus I don't think the fact that the only e17 on my laptop that this has
>>> happened to, is the one in Arch, automatically makes it a distro specific
>>> issue. It probably only means the Arch e17 is more accurately updated...
>>> At least that's mt best guess.
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure what was the e17 version number that I installed to Arch
>>> sometime since my mid March initial installation of Arch itself, but as
>>> of now the e17 "help about" lists it as "Enlightenment 0.16.999.063".
>>> Prior to this recent "pacman -Syu", e17's run prompt worked normally.
>>> Afterwards it's become fussy what the first character I input into it is.
>>> That is to say, I usually start opera via the run prompt and when I type
>>> "o" the command history displays the last instance of the command And I can
>>> in fact start opera. Yet I also use firefox {though I usually start that
>>> from inside alpine}. The other day I tried to start firefox from the run
>>> prompt. But as soon as I typed an "f" into the first character position of
>>> the command input field, I got a pop-up error telling me that
>>> "Enlightenment SEGV'd" That also advised me to compile everything with "-g
>>> in CFLAGS" So far, the the restore button succeeds in restarting e17
>>> without closing any open applications... But of course firefox didn't
>>> start. I can start firefox from an xterm. And I tested that I can type "of"
>>> into the run prompt without an immediate SEGV But I can't type an f as the
>>> first character. I haven't tested the whole alphabet, BUT I did find I
>>> can't type a command starting with "b" or "/" as the first character
>>> either. Though just because I'm stubborn I can tell you that I can start
>>> firefox [via e17's run prompt] with: "~/../../usr/bin/firefox" (go figure)
>>>
>>> I did say I've got a work around that works for me... Since I've also got
>>> XFCE installed as a back-up desktop, I've reassigned the keybinding I used
>>> to use to pull up e17's run prompt with, to "/usr/bin/xfrun4". Which works
>>> just fine.
>>>
>>> I don't know if this is a known issue or a new one. But I thought I
>>> should mention it.
>>>
>>


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