On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 23:30:43 +0100 Alex Baer <comet.fri...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 08 Dezember 2011, 07:24:36 schrieb Mick: > [...] > > > > > > > > But for the categories in the Applications menu, e seems to > > > > > refer to > > > > > > > > > > /etc/xdg/menus/enlightenment.menu, > > > > > > > > > > which contains only English text. If I remove this file from > > > > > here, I have a German applications menu!!! > > > > Hmm ... what happens if you leave that file well alone and you set > > your menu to either KDE or XFCE using the GUI (Settings Panel/ > > Menus/ Menu Settings/ Applications/ Menu Settings) > > I cannot choose Xfce here, only Enlightenment or KDE. I guess, with > Gnome installed, this would also be in the list, but none of the > smaller DEs (Xfce, LXDE, etc.). If I choose KDE, categories are in > English, everythin else uses the current locale. If I choose e, I > have no entries in the applications menu. As Raster explained in his > reply to my first post regarding this topic, the e menu option is > supposed to be only a fallback option, in cases when nothing else is > available (hope I got it right). I should point out that the entire menu system was designed by freedesktop.org, (FDO), largely under the guidance of the GNOME and KDE developers. The distros have designed their menus around that system, but following their own guidance. Not many have taken into consideration the smaller groups of people using other desktop enviroments / desktop shells, / window managers. Certainly I don't think anyone took into account Enlightenment DR17, which has not been released yet. On top of that, the entire FDO menu system is a complex morass of fiddly little details. It's hard to get it "correct", even harder with so many fingers in the pie, and especially hard for those outside the GNOME + KDE behemoths. Any efforts by us smaller groups have to somehow work with the likelihood that any given distro has only catered for whichever of the big two they chose to support. The specifications include methods for hiding things depending on the desktop environment in use. Some of the distros treat that as "it's either going to be GNOME, or it's going to be KDE", with the result that others are left in the dark. There is no guarantee that any specific distro got things "correct". Now, we could bypass some of what the distros chose to support, but then it becomes even harder to figure out where any given distro has put the various bits of the system we are actually interested in. Which does mean that when E17 users have to sort out what went wrong, they find themselves in a difficult position, facing a rather confusing set of XML files, environment variables, and default backup systems, specified by a large and complex set of documents that they probably have no idea how to find. The same applies to the other small groups that are not using GNOME or KDE. E17 can only make a best effort to sort through it all. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cloud Services Checklist: Pricing and Packaging Optimization This white paper is intended to serve as a reference, checklist and point of discussion for anyone considering optimizing the pricing and packaging model of a cloud services business. Read Now! http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51491232/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
