Am Freitag 09 Dezember 2011, 02:02:46 schrieb David Seikel: [...] > > I should point out that the entire menu system was designed by > freedesktop.org, (FDO), largely under the guidance of the GNOME and KDE > developers. The distros have designed their menus around that system, > but following their own guidance. Not many have taken into > consideration the smaller groups of people using other desktop > enviroments / desktop shells, / window managers. Certainly I don't > think anyone took into account Enlightenment DR17, which has not been > released yet. > > On top of that, the entire FDO menu system is a complex morass of > fiddly little details. It's hard to get it "correct", even harder with > so many fingers in the pie, and especially hard for those outside the > GNOME + KDE behemoths. Any efforts by us smaller groups have to > somehow work with the likelihood that any given distro has only catered > for whichever of the big two they chose to support. > > The specifications include methods for hiding things depending on the > desktop environment in use. Some of the distros treat that as "it's > either going to be GNOME, or it's going to be KDE", with the result that > others are left in the dark. There is no guarantee that any specific > distro got things "correct". > > Now, we could bypass some of what the distros chose to support, but > then it becomes even harder to figure out where any given distro has > put the various bits of the system we are actually interested in. > > Which does mean that when E17 users have to sort out what went wrong, > they find themselves in a difficult position, facing a rather > confusing set of XML files, environment variables, and default > backup systems, specified by a large and complex set of documents > that they probably have no idea how to find. The same applies to the > other small groups that are not using GNOME or KDE. E17 can only make > a best effort to sort through it all.
I understand your point, and I accept, that things are complicated and under the control of the major distros. However, the situation of e is comparable with that of other "minor" DEs, such as Xfce, LXDE and some window managers. However, I still think, that the problem discussed here is something that should be fixed in e, not in the distro or FDO. But I am not saying this to blame anyone. I just would like to see this fixed before e17 is released, as it is a quite obvious, and annoying bug. No showstopper, of course, but still something that hits the eye immediately, and therefore would be noticed by users rather quickly. Regards Alex ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Learn Windows Azure Live! Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 Microsoft is holding a special Learn Windows Azure training event for developers. It will provide a great way to learn Windows Azure and what it provides. You can attend the event by watching it streamed LIVE online. Learn more at http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-windowsazure _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
