On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:24:36AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:22:29 +0100 Magnus Therning <mag...@therning.org> said:
>
> > I'm very new to Enlightenment so please forgive any ignorance and
> > stupidity on my part.
> >
> > For a while now I've been running parts of LXDE together with XMonad
> > on Arch Linux, but lately I've been looking around for options to
> > LXDE. I really like what I've seen of Enlightenment, it's quick and
> > still very shiny. Of course there are some things left before it's
> > completely production ready, e.g. I can't seem to get entrance to
> > actually let me log in. Anyway, I'd like to switch to E17 but so far
> > I haven't found a way to use it together with XMonad. Which leads me
> > to sending this email. Is it possible to get the "desktop experience"
> > of E17, but swap out its window manager and use XMonad instead, in the
> > same way that LXDE lets me replace Openbox?
>
> no. enlightenment *IS A WINDOW MANAGER*. it is not gnome, or kde or
> lde or xfce... which run maybe a dozen or more processes and the mw
> is just one of them... enlightenment is a single monolithic
> process... that is wm, filemanager, desktop manager, launcher,
> panel, settings tool etc. etc. all in one. it's a vastly different
> design and philosophy to the other linux desktops. this is one of
> the reasons we can do so much with so little.
True, but it also means it's a much less *flexible design*; it's an
all-or-nothing design. Which means it most likely isn't for me, since
I like XMonad and would like to continue using it. I do understand
the reason for the design though.
> nb - entrance is not part of enlightenment - neither is terminology
> or enjoy or eve etc. - its a separate project that happens to be
> under our banner - you can use it, or not. up to you. you can use
> any other login manager you like to use. entrace has more more
> "integration requirements:" than e does as it needs to authenticate
> users and thus have pam work in compatible ways. right now it uses
> efreet - but efreet currently in svn isn't built for a root daemon
> to run and use as it requires a dbus session bus. thisis not
> something that has been addressed at this stage as these efreet
> changes are recent. you should stick to an efreet release (1.7.3)
> and not svn if you want things to have a hope of working for you
> (until we release a new version).
Thanks for pointing out the issues around entrance/efreet, I'll try to
keep an eye on that since I'm interested in using a few of the
E17-related items.
/M
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