On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 08:55:38 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> said:
> BTW John, DAC stands for Digital to Analogue Converter. Any computer > sound has to go through a DAC to produce analogue sound. Your ears are > analogue, and can't accept a digital signal. So DACs aren't anything > special. Motherboard sound uses DACs, as does any USB sound device. > > On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 17:25:14 -0500 mh <mhe...@member.fsf.org> wrote: > > > Looks like a nice player :) I think the optical out is a digital > > signal. As far as the difference in sound with my external dac, to be > > honest it's hard to say. I'd like to think that it would sound better > > than the dac included on the computer main board. I think it sounds > > better, but to say for sure you'd need to do some A-B-X testing I > > suppose. I'm happy with the setup though. I really needed the O2 amp > > to drive the Beyer headphones, even though they are 250 ohm, not the > > 600 ohm. > > Typical sound on motherboards doesn't shield the analogue side of > things from all the electrical noise inside the computer. So it's > usual to hear a variety of horrid little sounds, clicks, buzzes, pops, > if you listen carefully to typical motherboard sound. Typical USB > based sound is outside of the computer, and thus tend to be shielded > enough to not pick up all that noise. Try listening to silence or > quiet tracks with headphones. YMMV maybe i have just gotten lucky machine after machine year after year... or you have just been unlucky... but i have never had unshielded analogue lines on any pc or laptop i have had. never heard a buzz or clicks, bings, beeps, clicks, ticks or anything. indeed you are right - unshielded analogue lines will indeed inherit interference from general electric signals from the motherboard - but i've never heard it... i HAVE heard it from a phone if near enough to the headphone or speaker cables in the past. though that seems to have stopped these days of glorious lte-a :) > > I also have the eMixer working, sitting on my shelf :) It works > > perfectly! I haven't tried any of the other settings, just using the > > master channel. > > > > > > On 12/23/2014 03:23 PM, John Holland wrote: > > > I have a fiio X3 but I've only used it as a portable music player. > > > It says it can be a dac though. Is an optical audio signal digital > > > data or analog? Do you perceive the difference in sound from using > > > the dac? > > > > > > Also you know I was able to get the enlightenment mixer to work > > > with Alsa by installing libasound2-dev before compiling e. > > > > > > On December 23, 2014 3:10:57 PM EST, mh <mhe...@member.fsf.org> > > > wrote: > > >> I plug the dac into the front usb port, then dac output into the > > >> amp. To > > >> play cds or music files, I usually use Audacious. Connect the dac > > >> first, > > >> then start Audacious. Then, set Audacious pcm device setting for > > >> the dac, use the default mixer device. > > >> > > >> For system audio, like Firefox, youtube etc, there is the > > >> /etc/asound.conf file. In it there are two lines that identify the > > >> default audio card to use. Normal system default is 0, my dac is 3: > > >> > > >> defaults.ctl.card 3 > > >> defaults.pcm.card 3 > > >> > > >> As I plug and unplug the dac it will change from 0 to 3 and back > > >> and the > > >> system audio will change from the computer speakers to the the dac. > > >> > > >> > > >> On 12/23/2014 02:01 PM, John Holland wrote: > > >>> Is that something that is built into a desktop? > > >>> > > >>> On December 23, 2014 11:00:49 AM EST, mh <mhe...@member.fsf.org> > > >> wrote: > > >>>> I have a JDS Labs ObjectiveDAC and pair it with the JDS > > >>>> Objective2 headphone amp. Beyer DT990 phones. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On 12/23/2014 10:54 AM, John Holland wrote: > > >>>>> What do you use for a dac? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On December 23, 2014 9:52:08 AM EST, mh <mhe...@member.fsf.org> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> On 12/23/2014 09:12 AM, marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de wrote: > > >>>>>>> Hi! > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:59:40PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:54:38 -0500 mh<mhe...@member.fsf.org> > > >>>> said: > > >>>>>>>>> On 12/23/2014 01:11 AM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> Le 23/12/2014 00:19, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a > > >>>>>>>>>> écrit > > >> : > > >>>>>>>>>>> likely alsa will get dropped and current mixer replaced by > > >>>>>> epulse. > > >>>>>>>>>> Fine ! > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> sorry to hear that! > > >>>>>>>> mixer isnt in great shape, and alsa is definitely less used > > >>>>>>>> than > > >>>>>> pulse. and > > >>>>>>>> epulse is very solid and working well - so less bugs. it is > > >>>>>>>> far > > >>>> more > > >>>>>> fully > > >>>>>>>> featured. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> if people have a problem with this, then it may be an idea to > > >> get > > >>>> up > > >>>>>> and get > > >>>>>>>> your hands dirty. :) > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> There is a abstraction layer for backends in epulse, and as > > >>>>>>> far > > >> as > > >>>> I > > >>>>>>> know there is a alsa backend, currently it is in a branch, > > >>>>>>> but it > > >>>>>> works, > > >>>>>>> I run it a long time :) > > >>>> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! 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