On 11/27/02 5:01 PM, "Gary Lists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Listahs,
> 
> Regarding HTML in mail (not 'complex html'), I've noticed something today
> that I've spent the last hour trying to figure, and can't.
> 
> I have my preference unchecked for displaying complex HTML in the Mail &
> News>'Read' tab; unchecked for displaying a formatting toolbar in the Mail &
> News>'Compose' tab (and both pop-ups there are set to 'Plain Text'); and my
> default font under the Preferences>General>'Fonts' tab for 'HTML messages
> (proportional)' is Verdana 10.
> 
> However, sometimes I still get "html" mail, for which I use the Remove HTML
> script (I think it's Allen's, IIRC) which makes the tiny text message
> (usually Helvetica-like) instantly transform into Verdana 10.
> 
> Today, I noticed in a message (from Paul B.) that the size/font was fine
> (Verdana 10), but there was helpful formatting present -- some italicized
> words here and there.
> 
> I am confused as to how I get 'html-ized' messages ITFP, and would tolerate
> it gladly if I could read the text.  (I'm not 'afraid' of HTML, just of odd
> typefaces and/or very small text.)
> 
> Can someone tell me what I might be missing in the understanding of HTML
> mail here? And also what gives with still receiving tiny-print type given my
> settings? And, further, how I might set my pref's to allow formatting but
> force my font choice (and not offend other recipients ;)?
> 
> I've always been a pure text-only mail and news believer, and wouldn't want
> a method that windows users couldn't read either, but I'm coming around to
> seeing some bold and oblique here and there.

Since I wrote my HTML on a Mac, the size I chose (Verdana 12) looks good on
your Mac app (another copy of Entourage , as it happens. But it would also
look good on Eudora Mac, Outlook Express, Mailsmith, Mail, etc. Same if I
wrote from one of those.)

The problem you've seen with tiny font size comes from people writing on
Windows apps. The resolution on Windows is 96 dpi compared to our 72 dpi. So
when they pick a comfortable screen-size (perhaps Arial 8 or 9, or even 10)
for the, it looks minute to us. And my Verdana 12 looks absolutely enormous
to the, as if I'm shouting. The issue doesn't arise for complex HTML,
because Internet Explorer is used to render that here in Entourage and IE,
uniquely among Mac apps, is set to 96 dpi by default precisely so that
everything (web pages) will look the same to us on the Mac as they do on
Windows.

A feature request would be to ask Entourage to alter its display of simple
HTML if it knows that the message is coming from a Windows app: magnify by
4/3 (33% bigger). With maybe a "send to Windows" button to press to reduce
HTML size to 3/4 (reduce 25%) if you know you're sending to a Windows
recipient.


-- 
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage


PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - 2001 or X.
It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.


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