On 12/4/02 6:15 PM, "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Eudora's format=flowed has been requested over and over. I first asked for
> it when I switched from Emailer (which also can do flowed text,

So *that's* what "format=flowed" means!!!  I always wondered what that meant
in the headers of many of my incoming messages.

> if I recall;
> maybe I'm imagining that and the switch I remember is from Eudora to
> Emailer) because I needed it to send some long command lines to "listserv"
> programs running my mailing lists.

Well it seems like most of the script writers get around this by posting in
HTML format now, correct?

> As I recall, the MBU folks seem to think
> it <does> violate some standard or other, and so have refused to consider
> it.
> 
> I still think it's a mistake not to do it. Standards are not natural laws;
> they are agreed-upon limitations and guidelines. If a large enough segment
> (even a significant minority) of the customer base wants something else, and
> it isn't difficult to provide that (surely NOT breaking lines is easier than
> breaking them?), IMO it should be provided.

I'm not saying anything against providing the option, I'm just advocating
exclusivity for creating options in prominent and commonly-accessed places
in the program.  Like I said, a "Message Properties" window with more
advanced options like this could have this sort of option, since most people
wouldn't go there anyway.
> 
> We have a button now that switches between HTML and plain text. Why not make
> it a 3-option popup, with flowed text the third option?

Very good idea.  It would make perfect sense in a place like that.  I just
don't think it deserves a separate toolbar button.
> 
> -- 
> Microsoft MVP for Entourage/OE/Word (MVPs are volunteers)
> Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Entourage FAQ site:
> <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
> AppleScripts for Outlook Express and Entourage:
> <http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Scripts/>
> Entourage Help Pages: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Mickey Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 17:46:04 -0600
>> To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Plain text wrap setting
>> 
>> On 12/4/02 2:54 PM, "Peter C.S. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thus spake Eric Hildum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, circa 12/4/2002 3:42 PM:
>>>> Well, if you want wider, I am sure they could hardcode 132 columns
>>> 
>>> What *I* want is a button on the toolbar to prevent wrapping *AT ALL* on a
>>> message by message basis, a la Eudora. But it's only third on my Entourage
>>> wish list....
>> 
>> But this epitomizes the big problem with Eudora and the advantage of using
>> Entourage over Eudora.  Eudora's interface is quite cluttered, IMO, over the
>> interface of Entourage.  Entourage only includes basic and collaboration
>> (PIM)-based commands on the toolbar.  Eudora's interface has far more
>> features strewn all over the place, with obscure options taking up space on
>> toolbars.  Most Entourage users just want a way to send and organize e-mail
>> powerfully without all of the hassle.  That's one of the thing I like about
>> Entourage - it's simple and clean; if I want the rare additional
>> functionality, I can generally get it with AppleScript.  Maybe this sort of
>> option would be better placed in a "Message Properties" type of window with
>> more advanced options that are less used by the average consumer.

-- 
Mickey Stevens
Microsoft Mac MVP
The Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/>


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