Thanks for your post on this thread:
From: Paul Berkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Granted, there is something wrong on my computer. It seems to only be a problem in Entourage.
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:49:01 -0800
Subject: Re: L - slash = stroked L (Polish?)
On 1/23/05 5:39 PM, "henryn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks for your response on this thread:
From: Eddie Hargreaves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>I just opened two new messages, enabling Format-->HTML in one, and disabling it in the other. Results of typing the L slash sequence were identical: both produced a stroked L.
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 17:39:05 -0800
Subject: Re: L - slash = stroked L (Polish?)
On 1/22/05 1:25 PM, henryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What can I do to render L followed by slash as just that in Entourage?
Send messages in plain text.
I expect -- I hope-- per Paul Berkowitz, below, that recipients of each format will see "L slash".
But that doesn't excuse the incorrect rendering on my machine in both outgoing and incoming messages.
It evidently has nothing to do wit Entourage since other people don't see the problem either sending or receiving. It's a problem with your computer. And here's what the problem is:
You don't in fact have Times New Roman installed. When I select any part of your text in my reply window, it says that the font is Times, not Times New Roman. That means that you're getting a font substitution if you think you're setting Times New Roman. Font substitutions are notoriously "iffy" - chances are you're actually getting an OS 9 Times font doing the substituting.
Have you removed Times New Roman and other Microsoft fonts form ~/Library/Fonts (where ~/ is your user folder). Don't do that. Even if you haven't you would be getting a conflict, probably from the O 9 Fonts folder. Open Font Book in /Applications, select the OS 9 (Classic Collection and Disable. Quit and relaunch Entourage and try TNR now.
Your source says
<FONT FACE=3D"Times, Times New Roman"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>
but you're actually using Times, not TNR.
I do in fact have Times New Roman installed, in ~/Library/Fonts. Plain ol' Times is installed in [HD]/System/Library/Fonts.
There is no variant of Times in my OS9 fonts folder.
I've culled all my font folders to near-minimum configuration, as well as I can find such documented, plus a very few completely standard fonts I use regularly. Unfortunately, this configuration has suffered a bit from the habit of installers to unexpectedly install new fonts, but each font folder is still relatively clean in terms of numbers and keeping to standard fonts. In other words, I'm pretty conservative about fonts.
As far as not removing Microsoft fonts from my home font folder, I can't accept a bunch of fonts that I'll never use and which simply bloat my font menus, some of which get very balky when overloaded. If there is a small set of minimum Office-required fonts -- don't see why, but OK, if this is documented, I guess I'll make sure they are installed. I haven't seen any such list. No Office application has said at startup, "Sorry, you don't have <font name> installed, so I can't run..."
In any case, Entourage was working just fine until recently with respect to fonts, and the only visible changes to my font folders are have been some minor additions of optional fonts.
Checking further, all the Entourage settings in Preferences--> General Preferences --> Fonts were set to Times, not TNR. I think that's a consistent setting -- after all, Times is installed.
To get a fresh start, I set all the Entourage font choices to "Helvetica", which is in [HD]/System/Library/Fonts, verified there's no variant of Helvetica in the Classic font folder, rechecked that Font Book doesn't show the dreaded duplicate-marker for Helvetica --no bullet appears for Helvetica-- quit, then restarted Entourage.
When I open a new message in plain text mode and type 'L' followed by '/', I see "L/" (in Helvetica). So far so good. When I type 'l' (lower case ell) followed by '/', I see "L/". Yes, that's right, lower-case ell slash maps to upper-case ell slash. Same is true with HTML mode enabled.
Now, I've switched to Helvetica.
Following this sentence I'll type capital ell followed by a slash: L/
Following this sentence I'll type lower-case ell followed by a slash: l/
Hmm, that worked right. On the next line I'll type lower-case ell followed by a slash:
L/
That would not be right. I'll do it again on the following line:
L/
A quick check in TextEdit shows correct operation with Helvetica. I could believe that I might have a corrupt font, but not two of them. Other ideas?
Thanks,
Henry
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