James Yep, the tree was felled near a shelter or something like it.
Will F. Blozan President, Eastern Native Tree Society President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Parton Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:16 AM To: ENTSTrees Subject: [ENTS] Re: Lake Julian Park, Arden/Skyland NC Will, Where did you drop that pine? I would guess that it was at the campground area. Several big stumps are there testifying of the trees lost. I did not realize that some of them had been gone that long though. What was the reason they had them cut down. The area was prettier with them. Over the years the lake has lost a lot of trees. Development on the shoreline opposite the powerplant really shows this. Part of the campground was once located there and now it is businesses that are located there. The main part of the park itself on Long Shoals as also had a high percentage of trees cut. I just don't understand it. The whole Arden/Skyland area has really been developed over the last 20 years. Depressingly so. Long Shoals rd should be called Long Shoals Highway! Not only has the trees been hurt along the lake but the available land to fish from around the lake has been reduced about 50 percent. Catfish had no keeper limit but due to more people fishing the lake the limit is now six fish. Times change. I know what one of those shockwaves feel like. A big tuliptree was cut down about 400 feet from my old home in Dana. It shook the whole house when it hit the ground. Where is Biltmore Park? James P. On Nov 17, 9:05 pm, "Will Blozan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James, > > Nice work! I remember dropping a huge white pine at Lake Julian back in > 1992. I "tape dropped" it to 125 feet with a tree climbing rope. Diameter > was 44" and I stripped the limbs and topped the tree before felling the > trunk. The stub was felled whole and stood ~ 95 feet tall. It had rained > heavy for several days and the ground was saturated so when the trunk hit > the ground a shock wave of saturated soil passed through the ground and > "bumped" me through the ground. It was the weirdest sight to see a wave move > through the soil. This was the second time this happened to me. Once in > Maryland while taking town a huge tuliptree, I flipped a huge chunk out of > the tree which landed flat as a pancake. From my aerial perspective I saw > the shockwaves radiate outwards through the soil and shake the surrounding > vegetation. The ground crew commented on the jolt they felt through the > earth. The log was winched out of the ground as it had sunk about 40% of the > diameter. We had a heck of a time fixing the crater. > > If you are in Arden I suggest you spend some time on the walking trials at > Biltmore Park. I was cruising thru there looking for hemlocks to treat and > spotted some really nice VA pines and shortleaf. The tallest Trident maple I > have seen was in there and roughed out over 110'. Nice stuff deserving of a > look now that leaves are off. > > Will F. Blozan > > President, Eastern Native Tree Society > > President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of James Parton > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:06 PM > To: ENTS > Subject: [ENTS] Lake Julian Park, Arden/Skyland NC > > ENTS, > > I have just completed one of the largest measuring outings I have done for > ENTS. It took 5 individual trips and is of the woods surrounding Lake Julian > on the outskirts of Asheville NC in the Arden/Skyland area. > > Lake Julian is a decent sized lake of about 300 acres or so and was created > to cool the Progress Energy ( Then CP&L ) coal powerplant that is located on > one shore of the lake. The lake was created in 1963. Progress Energy leases > land on the lake to the Buncombe County Parks & Recreation for entertainment > purposes. > > http://www.buncombecounty.org/common/parks/LakeJulianBrochure.pdf > > http://h2o.enr.state.nc.us/esb/documents/FRENCHBROADRIVERBASIN2007.pdf > > http://www.buncombecounty.org/governing/depts/Parks/facilities/parks/... > ian.htm > > The lake has been a favorite fishing spot of mine since the early 1980s and > I have spent many hours on the shore and in boats fishing. I had never > really thought about checking out the woods near the lake until after I > moved close by. These are about as close as " home woods " as I can get. > > I explored 4 sections of forest near the lake ( See satillite image ). > Section one is on the hothole side of the lake near Heywood rd. Section two > is the old lake Julian campground. Section 3 is on the main side of the lake > on the right just past the trestle bridge. Section four is the main part of > the park itself on the other side of the lake along Old Shoals rd. The white > arrows mark these areas. Dark blue arrows on the map mark future areas I > would like to explore. The dark green one marks my home. > > I will now discribe the outings, section at a time. > > Section one. > > Located along the back section of the lake near Heywood Rd & Old Shoals Rd. > This is a mixed forest of hardwoods & conifers. Various oaks & tuliptrees > dominate along with white pine and pitch pine. Maples, sourwood and Virginia > pine are present also. American holly is common in the understory but > slightly less common than in the other three sections. > > Compared to the other sections it had the tallest tree measured. A 135.64ft > White Pine. I found no tree reaching 10 feet in girth. This section was > measured last August. > > White Pine 7' 6" cbh 100.25ft. > > Pitch Pine 5' 3/4" cbh 95.06ft > > White Pine 8' 1 1/2" cbh 98.81ft > > White Pine 9' 1/2" cbh 135.64ft! > > Pitch Pine 4' 5" cbh 76.41ft > > Tuliptree 7' 2" cbh 96.00ft > > Section 2. > > The campground picnic area. > > I really did not expect to find much in the way of large trees here but I > was pleasantly surprised. The oaks, which lost out in size to the white > pines in section 1 really competed here. One specimen measured over 13 feet > in girth and another over 100 feet tall! The white pines also were > outstanding here, one reaching over 120 feet tall. I found several large > white pine stumps and was able to get a ring count from one of them. These > trees have been cut down in the last two years. The ring count was 84 years > in a stump just over a yard in diameter. The oldest trees here may date > between 100-110 years judging by the this ring count, that is if they grew > at a similar rate. Holly is common on the lakeshore. > > White Oak 13' 4" cbh 101.54ft! > > White Oak 11' 9" cbh 97.38ft > > White Pine 10' 8 1/2" cbh 98.78ft. Massive reiteration and large branch > stubs. > > Larch? 5' 6" cbh 50.90ft > > White Oak 12' 4" cbh 90.03ft > > White Pine 10' 8" cbh 123.51ft! > > White Pine 11' 0" cbh 115.60ft! > > White Pine 9' 5" cbh > > Section 3. > > Past trestle bridge on right. > > The forest here is similar to section one but the trees are a bit bigger > overall. Tuliptree is a bit more numerous. Black cherry and some decent > hickories are present in addition to other hardwoods such as oak. American > Holly is a very common understory tree. Some with bright red berries. I > thought at first I might have found a near-record pitch pine but it came up > short. But still it came up a nice tree. A tall Virginia pine leaning up > close to it plus the pines rounded top made finding the highest point > difficult but I think I got at least close. The tree was just over 96 feet > tall. Section 3 had more trees over 100 feet than any of the other sections > I measured. > > Tuliptree 6' 5 1/2" cbh 112.14ft > > Tuliptree 10' 11" cbh ( MT ) > > White Pine 6' 6" cbh 100.52ft > > Pitch Pine 7' 6" 1/2" cbh 96.17ft! > > White Pine 7' 5" cbh 115.11ft > > American Holly 2' 3" /2" cbh 34.17ft > > White Pine 8' 2" cbh 108.58ft Broken Top. > > Hickory 5' 5" cbh 101.76ft > > Section 4 > > Lake Julian Park. Long Shoals > > Over the years this area has been thinned of a lot of trees. Oaks and white > pine dominate. Most of the whites are rather small in size but some are > pretty tall for their girths. Two hemlocks were found. Both were healthy. I > suspect they have been treated. Will maybe? Holly is everywhere. Some very > laden and very red with berries. The park officials really must love > hollies. So do I! > > Of the trees I measured, only one topped 100ft. A tuliptree. One of the > numerous oaks may top 100 also. > > White Oak 8' 10 3/4" cbh 87.74ft > > Shortleaf Pine 6' 0" cbh 82.89ft > > American Holly 2' 10" cbh 38.76ft > > White Pine 4' 9 1/2" cbh 95.00ft > > Eastern Hemlock 2' 2" cbh 44.58ft Healthy! > > White Pine 4' 7" cbh 89.91ft > > White Oak 7' 8" cbh ( MT ) > > Tuliptree 6' 6 1/4" cbh 104.57ft > > American Holly 2' 9" cbh 40.03ft > > Sections two through four were done in the last two weekends. Section one > was done last August. It seemed odd doing anything else at Lake Julian > besides fishing! > > James Parton --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Eastern Native Tree Society http://www.nativetreesociety.org You are subscribed to the Google Groups "ENTSTrees" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/entstrees?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
