On 02/18/2016 06:29 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 18 February 2016 at 14:13, ~Stack~ <i.am.st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 02/18/2016 01:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 23:24:58 -0700
>>> Stephen John Smoogen <smo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>> 1. Packages will never disappear. [They don't disappear from Fedora 12
>>>>    even if it is archived.. ]
>>>
>>> To my understanding we never made this promise. We should try and
>>> communicate why it's NOT something we promise.
>>
>> Could you elaborate on this please? I have asked before, but didn't
>> really get an answer. I don't understand this.
>>
> 
> Software in EPEL follows many of the same rules as software in Fedora.
> If there isn't an active maintainer the software is removed. This is
> because a lot of people expect that the software is going to be
> getting updates and bug fixes when it is there. If it isn't there it
> is clear that it isn't getting any bug fixes.
> 
> While as a user this is a major pain in the butt, on the other side
> (maintainers and developers of the software) it is a major pain when
> the opposite occurs. Developers get complaints about software they no
> longer have any interest in and try to find someone to get rid of the
> old software. People who are maintainers of other packages get long
> hate emails about why is this software still in XYZ repository if no
> one is going to care about it. It burnt out a lot of the early
> repository people because they had made a package for someone at some
> point but really didn't have any care for it to be there any longer
> but all they were getting was crap for it being there.

Thanks for replying. Makes sense. But what would the harm be to move a
package into a separate "retired" repo? Community would know that it
isn't maintained and yet the package wouldn't just disappear completely.
I guess the difficult question would then be, how long is the package
kept till it needs to be pruned? 1yr? 6mo? Still, it would be nice to
give the user base the option to pull the packages they need out on a
long enough scale that they have time to discover it with new builds.

I also wonder how many people have been bit by this. I know I have
supplied packages out of my repos for others before, but it has only
been a handful. It seems to have bitten me several times in the last
year and all were for EL6, but (fingers crossed) I am done with the EL6
boxes in <2yrs with a full migration to either EL7 or Ubuntu LTS and
won't need the EL6 repo any more. :-)

Thanks again!
~Stack~

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