Engineering is a sort of science, as a matter of degree, it is more science than most "science" because it has more empirical validation.
I assume that you have some familiarity with translation programs such as http://translate.google.com/# . They are currently terrible, but do you think that they will ever "amount to very much?" I think they will provided either the linguists get their act together, or, the more competent body of engineers, who design the software, do the necessary linguistics research themselves (especially, as I described about conditional probability). On Nov 28, 3:07 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > PS... Einseele... if he's still around, should get involved in this > discussion....he likes Linguistics.. and math... and computer > languages sorts of matters..... > My own opinion is that Linguistics is a very Soft Science... that will > never amount to very much... at best it can aspire to be to is to be > "encyclopedic" and catalogue all "words" or other languages > constructions... just as a sort of "zoological" excercise... and note > what new "species or genera" are "born" and which old ones become > extinct...... > > On Nov 28, 3:33 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > But, in Linguistics, empirical validation, including experimentation,> is > > more easily done than in sociology or psychiatry/ > > > You think so?... clearly..... > > Can you explain how easier and why?... I mean, apart from the > > "seeming" false validation (experimental or otherwise provided by > > such > > things" (human constructs, really) such "grammar rules" accepted > > definitions and the like.... language as a means of shared > > communication requiring a basic imposed uniforminty for the sake of > > mutual "human" understanding, sort of thing..... > > As another consideration.... how do you account for other shared > > imposed orderings... like Mathematics.... Musical notation..... > > Computer languages....etc. Are they "Hard Science or Soft Science.... > > Mathematics seems to be a confusing case... but only because it is > > used to account for "Hard Science" sorts of "things"? > > nominal9 > > > On Nov 27, 5:17 pm, aruzinsky <aruzin...@general-cathexis.com> wrote: > > > > But, in Linguistics, empirical validation, including experimentation, > > > is more easily done than in sociology or psychiatry. > > > > On Nov 27, 11:20 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Hard Science... Soft Science.... > > > > Physics... Sociology > > > > Biology... Psychology > > > > anything... "Human"- or behavioral based (or other such areas... > > > > pretty much Soft Science, I think......... > > > > Cause and effect.... action and reaction > > > > nominal9 > > > > > On Nov 24, 12:34 pm, aruzinsky <aruzin...@general-cathexis.com> wrote: > > > > > > Correction: > > > > > > Replace "experimentation" with "empirical validation." > > > > > Experimentation is not always necessary for science (My bad.). > > > > > > On Nov 23, 4:40 pm, aruzinsky <aruzin...@general-cathexis.com> wrote: > > > > > > > According tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics, linguistics is > > > > > > a science. According > > > > > > tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science#Scientific_method, > > > > > > science requires experimentation. For your entertainment, what's > > > > > > wrong with these papers about bare plurals?: > > > > > > >http://people.umass.edu/partee/docs/Dependent_Plurals_Partee.pdfhttp:...... > > > > > > > The authors of these papers do not report any experimentation, > > > > > > therefore, these studies are not science. > > > > > > > I found only one paper with an experiment: > > > > > > >http://mercury.hau.ac.kr/kggc/Publications/SIGG/SIGG12/SIGG12201_HKKa... > > > > > > > but it is flawed in some other ways.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To post to this group, send email to epistemol...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en.