Engineering is a sort of science, as a matter of degree, it is more
science than most "science" because it has more empirical validation.

I assume that you have some familiarity with translation programs such
as http://translate.google.com/# .  They are currently terrible, but
do you think that they will ever "amount to very much?"  I think they
will provided either the linguists get their act together, or, the
more competent body of engineers, who design the software, do the
necessary linguistics research themselves (especially, as I described
about conditional probability).

On Nov 28, 3:07 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> PS... Einseele... if he's still around, should get involved in this
> discussion....he likes Linguistics.. and math... and computer
> languages sorts of matters.....
> My own opinion is that Linguistics is a very Soft Science... that will
> never amount to very much... at best it can aspire to be to is to be
> "encyclopedic" and catalogue all "words" or other languages
> constructions... just as a sort of "zoological" excercise... and note
> what new "species or genera" are "born" and which old ones become
> extinct......
>
> On Nov 28, 3:33 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > But, in Linguistics, empirical validation, including experimentation,> is 
> > more easily done than in sociology or psychiatry/
>
> > You think so?... clearly.....
> > Can you explain how easier and why?... I mean, apart from the
> > "seeming" false validation (experimental or otherwise provided by
> > such
> > things" (human constructs, really) such "grammar rules" accepted
> > definitions and the like.... language as a means of shared
> > communication requiring a basic imposed uniforminty for the sake of
> > mutual "human" understanding, sort of thing.....
> > As another consideration.... how do you account for other shared
> > imposed orderings... like Mathematics.... Musical notation.....
> > Computer languages....etc. Are they "Hard Science or Soft Science....
> > Mathematics seems to be a confusing case... but only because it is
> > used to account for "Hard Science" sorts of "things"?
> > nominal9
>
> > On Nov 27, 5:17 pm, aruzinsky <aruzin...@general-cathexis.com> wrote:
>
> > > But, in Linguistics, empirical validation, including experimentation,
> > > is more easily done than in sociology or psychiatry.
>
> > > On Nov 27, 11:20 am, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hard Science... Soft Science....
> > > > Physics... Sociology
> > > > Biology... Psychology
> > > > anything... "Human"- or behavioral based (or other such areas...
> > > > pretty much Soft Science, I think.........
> > > > Cause and effect.... action and reaction
> > > > nominal9
>
> > > > On Nov 24, 12:34 pm, aruzinsky <aruzin...@general-cathexis.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Correction:
>
> > > > > Replace "experimentation" with "empirical validation."
> > > > > Experimentation is not always necessary for science (My bad.).
>
> > > > > On Nov 23, 4:40 pm, aruzinsky <aruzin...@general-cathexis.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > According tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics, linguistics is
> > > > > > a science.  According 
> > > > > > tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science#Scientific_method,
> > > > > > science requires experimentation.  For your entertainment, what's
> > > > > > wrong with these papers about bare plurals?:
>
> > > > > >http://people.umass.edu/partee/docs/Dependent_Plurals_Partee.pdfhttp:......
>
> > > > > > The authors of these papers do not report any experimentation,
> > > > > > therefore, these studies are not science.
>
> > > > > > I found only one paper with an experiment:
>
> > > > > >http://mercury.hau.ac.kr/kggc/Publications/SIGG/SIGG12/SIGG12201_HKKa...
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