On 2/7/2013 11:44 AM, nominal9 wrote:

 Does somebody know what  Vacuum is ? / Socratus

I say that that is a bad question, is assumes that there is a 'thing' that is being named "the vacuum", there is no such thing. Asking wrong questions almost never gives correct answers.



The "firm" below says they do... they say they make the best vacuum in the world......expensive, though (HAR)
http://www.kirby.com/


On Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:01:24 AM UTC-5, socratus wrote:

     Does somebody know what  Vacuum is ?
    No, we don’t know what  Vacuum is.
    1
     Paul Dirac wrote:
    ‘ The problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
     is the basic problem now before physics. Really, if you can’t
    correctly
    describe the vacuum, how it is possible to expect a correct
    description
    of something more complex? ‘
    2.
    The most fundamental question facing 21st century physics will be:
    What is the vacuum? As quantum mechanics teaches us, with
     its zero point energy this vacuum is not empty and the word
     vacuum is a gross misnomer!
       / Prof. Friedwardt Winterberg /
    3.
    Wikipedia :
    “ Unfortunately neither the concept of space nor of time is well
    defined,
    resulting in a dilemma. If we don't know the character of time nor of
    space,
     how can we characterize either? “
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime>
    4.
    "Now we know that the vacuum can have all sorts of wonderful effects
    over an enormous range of scales, from the microscopic to the
    cosmic,"
     said Peter Milonni
    from the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.
    5.
    ‘ All kinds of electromagnetic waves ( including light’s)
    spread in vacuum  . . . .  thanks to the vacuum, to the specific
    ability of empty space  these electromagnetic waves  can exist.’
    / Book : To what physics was come,  page 32. R. K. Utiyama. /
    ==.
    So, we know that the vacuum is very important conception in physics
    and nature, but . . .  but . . . we don’t know what vacuum is, and
    therefore
     is possible to have many speculations including metaphysical too.
    For example:   Danah  Zohar  wrote:

     ‘It might even give us some ground to speculate that
    the vacuum itself (and hence the universe) is ‘conscious’.
    / Book  ‘The quantum self ’ page 208. /
    #
     ‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive
    of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground
     state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’
    / Book  ‘The quantum self ’ page 208,  by Danah Zohar. /
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danah_Zohar
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danah_Zohar>

    The question is:
     How is it possible to prove Zohar’s metaphysical  confirmation
     with physical laws and formulas?
    ==.
    Socratus
    ===.

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Onward!

Stephen

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