Hi Percy,

We know that the same trim crank and elevator are fitted to all Ercoupes to Serial No. 1622.

The original trim system fitted to Serials 1 thru 122 acts directly on the control column, so if elevator control input is lost anywhere forward of the elevator to bellcrank pushrod assembly, Ercoupe Parts Catalog, p. 30, Fig. 21, item 1, trim influence on the elevator is also lost and it will assume a position consistent with a high speed "cruise" trim setting at which a safe emergency landing is unlikely. Per ESM 19, the revised trim system (Serial Nos. 123-1622) incorporates a rear-mounted spring, Item 8, between the elevator attachment (at the upper end of the elevator-to bellcrank pushrod, Item 1), and the elevator arm (bellcrank), Item 43.

According to the Ercoupe Service Manual, page 27, "...with the trim control crank...full up there should be no tension...on trim unit cable when cable when spring is attached." That does NOT mean that there is no tension on the elevator. The spring's "minimum" tension is sufficient to keep the elevator in an "up" position against the air flow pressure consistent with "nose up" trim position (and, thus, tthe "fail-safe" position).

The revised trim system would remain fully functional should elevator control be lost anywhere forward of the elevator arm (bellcrank), Item 43. The panel-mounted crank tensions the fore-aft trim cable (415-52268, not numbered but shown) so as to progressively stretch the elevator spring and lower the elevator sufficiently to balance, or trim in "cruise". It would be, therefore, the crank and cable that pull down the elevator and not the spring.

I would observe that many Ercoupes have not had the rear cone elevator arm assembly disassembled so as to clean up the shaft and Oilite bushings. Our heim end bearings and rudder bellcrank bushings have almost certainly received attention in the fifty plus years since our birds came off the production line. I would presume that the slightest stiffness (resistence) to the smooth operation of this elevator arm assembly would make satisfactory (ability to hold a desired setting) operation of this type of trim most difficult. It might prove worth the effort to clean and re-lubricate (if not replace Oilite bearings 415-52204-1 & 2.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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(copyright 2010)


On Aug 31, 2010, at 12:02, Percy Wood wrote:



Dear Bill, Ed, John, et al.
Found the discussion most useful. My first `coupe had the "aerodynamic" trim, which consisted of a lever on the left side of the cockpit and a wire going back to a movable tab on the back of the elevator. My new-to-me Ercoupe has the "intermediate" system of a crank, a cable, and a spring pulling down the elevator. From this pilots perspective, the aerodynamic provided an intuitive and stable system. With the crank, I am always trying to balance the engine RPM and the trim setting. It would help if the vernier throttle did not vibrate open as I cruised along, though!
          Percy in SE Bama



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