Bob, There are several paths to flying with Sport Pilot privileges. I will outline three possible ways, but there are other combinations that are possible.
1. A zero time pilot trains specifically to Sport Pilot proficiency levels with a CFI or CFI-S and receives a log book endorsement and an endorsement on Form 8710-11. The individual then takes a Proficiency flight with another CFI or DPE. If the Proficiency flight is passed, the person receives the Sport Pilot Certificate through a fully endorsed 8710-11 and can exercise the privileges if they fly an LSA qualified aircraft, have at least a current Class 3 medical or a current State issued drivers license. 2. A currently certificated plot, for instance a Private Pilot in Multi Engine Airplanes, can allow their Medical to lapse (not be turned down for the medical). If that person holds a current and valid State drivers license, they can now fly with Sport Pilot priviliges in an LSA single engine land plane. No change occurs to their certificate or to the FAA database. The pilot is self certififying that they are medically fit to fly the LSA airplane. No report to the FAA needs to be filed but the pilot is now limited to LSA land airplanes. 3. A currently certificated pilot (can be Sport Pilot or above) would like to fly an additional category of aircraft. He or she may take lessons and required hours for the new category with a CFI qualified in that category. They may also have to take the FAA Written exam (for instance a Private Pilot Balloon pilot would need to take the Sport Pilot written exam if moving to a powered category of aircraft). Once the CFI endorses them for a providiciency ride on an 8710-11, a second CFI who is qualified in the new category sought, can administer the Proficiency examination. If passed, an endorsed 8710-11 is sent to Oklahoma City. If you are flying under scenario 2, the "not printed on the certificate" will not apply. If you are flying under scenario 1, you will receive a plastic certificate with a Sport Pilot rating on it, but there will not be any informatino on category. The FAA database will show that the pilot has a Sport Pilot certificate, but after the privilege, for instance ASEL if will say "not printed on the certificate." If you are flying under scenario 3 you will not receive a new certificate, only the FAA database will show the additinal Sport Pilot privileges with the line "not printed on the certificate." So, why should anyone care: 1. Pilots who let their medicals lapse should not care as long as they are flying an LSA they qualify to fly. A Private powered parachute pilot cannot let their medical lapse and then start flying an LSA land airplane without training in the new category. 2. Pilots who train as Sport Pilots cannot produce evidence by way of their certificate as to the category of aircraft they are allowed to fly (airplane, balloon, glider, powered parachute, weight shift control or gyroplane) during a ramp check. They would need to show their logbook endorsement. 3. Pilots who have added a Sport Pilot privilege to their certificate are in the same situation as scenario 2. Their certificate will only provide evidence of Private Pilot or above privileges, with no mention of qualifcations to fly other categories. What is changing: When the Final Rule on Sport Pilot became effective on April 2, 2010 some changes went into effect regarding the 6 year old Sport Pilot program. These include dropping the requirement that Sport Pilots carry their logbooks with them during flight. A pilot can now carry a copy of their endorsements. Some administrative changes were made (not regulatory). The Administrator recognized the burden not having Sport Pilot privileges listed on the certificate and a decision was made to add them in scenario 2 and 3 above. In the case of 1, the category would be added as the certifcate issued does state Sport Pilot. In scenario 2 the added categories will also appear on newly issued certificates showing the additinal categories that can be flown with Sport Pilot Privileges. Some of this may become clearer if you browse through the FAA database at: https://amsrvs.registry.faa.gov/airmeninquiry/ Keep in mind, that some people completed scenario 2 and 3 and the FAA believes that no paperwork was ever sent to the FAA (8710-11). This has caused a gap in their records and the FAA is asking anyone who does not show privileges earned in the FAA database to get an 8710-11 submitted. Best, John On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 4:59 AM, BobD KSVE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Please set me straight, > I thought that if you just flew with your driver's liscense that was it. > When do you get on an FAA data base? > Thanks, > Bob D. > > > --- In [email protected] <ercoupe-tech%40yahoogroups.com>, John > Craparo <john.crap...@...> wrote: > > > > For instance, if you have a Private Pilot in Gliders, nothing else > appears > > on the certificate. When this change is made I believe, it will list: > > > > Private Pilot Privileges > > Glider > > Sport Pilot Privileges > > Airplane Single Engine Land > > Powered Parachute Land > > etc... > > > > The only place this shows up today, would be in your log book as an > > endorsement or set of endorsements and in the FAA Database if an 8710-11 > was > > filed by the person who gave the proficiency flight... In the database > > listing it shows them followed by Not Printed on Certificate in red > letters. > > > > Best, > > John > > > > On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:42 PM, John Cooper <j...@...>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/3/2010 9:13 PM, John Craparo wrote: > > > > > > > > This week you will receive a letter from the FAA explaining that a > new > > > > pilot certificate will be delivered that shows your Sport Pilot > > > Privileges > > > OK, I'll bite. If it's not printed on the certificate, what is [printed > > > on the certificate]? > > > > > > -- > > > John > > > Skyport East > > > www.skyportservices.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
